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    Default Infrastructure Grade: D. Conservative Grade: F

    The American Society of Civil Engineers' preliminary release today of its 2009 Report Card on Infrastructure lays bare the toll conservative ideology has taken on our transportation system, public facilities, water network and power grid.

    The ASCE gives the nation a collective grade of D in all of these areas. But when the grades issued today are compared to the groups 2001 and 2005 reports, it is clear that in critical areas conservative stewardship of these resources have made things worse, and in no area has it made things significantly better.

    Conservatives, therefore, get an F on their infrastructure stewardship.

    Infrastructure Grade: D. Conservative Grade: F.


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    Well, if the federal government weren't so busy spending all our tax dollars (and then some) on things like welfare (wealth redistribution), or health care and education (not authorized in the Constitution), perhaps there would be money left for infrastructure. Or, if Congress didn't use the transportation appropriations bill as their main way to get pork for their districts, infrastructure in need of repair would be funded ahead of unneeded projects in the "right" Congressman's district.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5stringJeff View Post
    Well, if the federal government weren't so busy spending all our tax dollars (and then some) on things like welfare (wealth redistribution), or health care and education (not authorized in the Constitution), perhaps there would be money left for infrastructure. Or, if Congress didn't use the transportation appropriations bill as their main way to get pork for their districts, infrastructure in need of repair would be funded ahead of unneeded projects in the "right" Congressman's district.
    If Bush hadn't spent nearly $1 trillion on an illegal and unnecessary war we would be having this discussion now...would we. But then, Grover Norquist should be happy. The government and many innocent people drowned in that river instead of the bath-tub he'd envisioned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bullypulpit View Post
    If Bush hadn't spent nearly $1 trillion on an illegal and unnecessary war we would be having this discussion now...would we. But then, Grover Norquist should be happy. The government and many innocent people drowned in that river instead of the bath-tub he'd envisioned.
    I get it:

    $1 Trillion for national security over several years: bad (Im skeptical about your totals btw)

    An insane amount more on pork projects all at once: Good

    Got ya.
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    Quote Originally Posted by avatar4321 View Post
    An insane amount more on pork projects all at once: Good
    One man's pork is another man's safe bridge.
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    Right on...the other UNBIASED articles on that site were good too...

    Like:

    Obama’s Economic Recovery Plan Is Almost As Pure As Ivory Soap
    by Bernie Horn
    January 27, 2009

    and:

    Community Pick
    Why House Republicans Aren't Worth Listening To
    01/30/2009 by Christopher Hayes
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    Quote Originally Posted by avatar4321 View Post
    I get it:

    $1 Trillion for national security over several years: bad (Im skeptical about your totals btw)

    An insane amount more on pork projects all at once: Good

    Got ya.
    Since when is a safe bridge pork? Since when is a power grid that doesn't go down in a stiff breeze pork? Since when is safe drinking water and the means to deliver it pork?

    And the invasion and occupation of Iraq had nothing to do with national security...<a href=http://www.nsnetwork.org/node/1038>Bush Has Made America Less Safe</a>.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bullypulpit View Post
    Since when is a safe bridge pork? Since when is a power grid that doesn't go down in a stiff breeze pork? Since when is safe drinking water and the means to deliver it pork?
    so there is absolutely zero pork in the democratic/obama stimulus plan?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    so there is absolutely zero pork in the democratic/obama stimulus plan?
    How many times does one need to respond to you, before you stop asking the same question?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    How many times does one need to respond to you, before you stop asking the same question?
    strange, first time i asked bully that question....

    what are you talking about btw?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    strange, first time i asked bully that question....

    what are you talking about btw?
    Really? You are obsessive with your posts, yet don't take the time to read others.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    so there is absolutely zero pork in the democratic/obama stimulus plan?
    As with any spending bill, whether its is Republican or Democratic, there is certain to be pork. But given the mood of the country, they should keep it to an absolute minimum and start rebuilding crumbling road, bridges, railways, power grids, and sanitation and water systems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bullypulpit View Post
    As with any spending bill, whether its is Republican or Democratic, there is certain to be pork. But given the mood of the country, they should keep it to an absolute minimum and start rebuilding crumbling road, bridges, railways, power grids, and sanitation and water systems.
    Do you think this bill did, 'keep it at a minimum'?


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    for a bill of it's size and money spent, yep. I like pork when it comes to my states, city, school, and it creates good jobs and infastructure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    How many times does one need to respond to you, before you stop asking the same question?

    Funny...... I thought it was an excellent question! Directed like a bullet and requiring a yes/no answer. What was wrong with it?

    And it was the first time he had asked it!


    just pointing it out!
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