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    Default Idiots and their stupid lawyers

    The Los Angeles area is soon going to be a more dangerous place to live because of stupid idiots and their money grubbing lawyers.
    A while back, a two-bit hood was caught robbing a business and ran from police. He brought something out of his pocket (at night) and was shot and killed. His family sued, stating that police should have used "less lethal" methods to subdue.
    LAPD adopted new legislation on when officers should use tasers or deadly force.
    Last week, an officer was threatened again by a hood and tasered. The perp had a bad reaction to the taser and died. Now his family are suing, claiming "unnecessary force."
    Another incident -- police arrested two known gang members found loitering near a business. One got an attorney, who managed to get him released. On the streets again, the gang guy ended up killing someone. Whose relatives are now suing LAPD for releasing the gang guy in the first place.

    I don't know what is more disgusting -- the relatives attempting to profit off a death, or the attorneys for taking the cases to make money for themselves.

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    hate to burst your bubble....but lawyers don't make those decisions....judges and juries do
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    Are you, Gabo, advocating for denying the accused their right to be represented in a court of law?
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    The courts are chock-full of unaccountable, activist liberals called Judges. There's the real problem. Lawyers are just advocating.

    This is just Gitmo, urban style.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Lawyers are just advocating.
    You guys give the lawyers too much of a break.

    Selling your services to do something wrong is still a form of prostitution.

    Not giving the judges a break, but hey, they can only rule on what is presented before them. A lawyer advocating for something immoral is just as wrong as a judge agreeing with him. Probably more so, as the lawyer had the option to decline the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    The courts are chock-full of unaccountable, activist liberals called Judges. There's the real problem. Lawyers are just advocating.

    This is just Gitmo, urban style.


    so true, so true!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyR View Post
    You guys give the lawyers too much of a break.

    Selling your services to do something wrong is still a form of prostitution.

    Not giving the judges a break, but hey, they can only rule on what is presented before them. A lawyer advocating for something immoral is just as wrong as a judge agreeing with him. Probably more so, as the lawyer had the option to decline the case.
    This is the backbone of our legal system. Are you suggesting that lawyers should only represent the innocent?

    Regardless of what tripe is brough before them, the judges have the power to make the ruling. The worst that can happen to them is the ruling is overturned. Not so horrible, is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    The courts are chock-full of unaccountable, activist liberals called Judges. There's the real problem. Lawyers are just advocating.

    This is just Gitmo, urban style.
    What she said!

    These are your people gabs, the ones you support, the ones you fight so hard to get and keep in power. Its your own Liberal Leftist judges, city councilmen and state legislators creating the laws where the judges and juries are handing down these type of rulings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    This is the backbone of our legal system. Are you suggesting that lawyers should only represent the innocent?
    What are you talking about? The examples above aren't examples of lawyers representing the guilty. They are examples of lawyers preying on the pain of a bereaved family member hoping to get paid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyR View Post
    What are you talking about? The examples above aren't examples of lawyers representing the guilty. They are examples of lawyers preying on the pain of a bereaved family member hoping to get paid.
    Really?
    Another incident -- police arrested two known gang members found loitering near a business. One got an attorney, who managed to get him released. On the streets again, the gang guy ended up killing someone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Really?
    Yes really. The point of that story (and gabosaurus's comment about lawyers) was that the FAMILY of the person he killed then sued the police. Different lawyer, and a case that any well respecting lawyer should not have taken.
    Last edited by DannyR; 02-18-2009 at 11:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyR View Post
    You guys give the lawyers too much of a break.

    Selling your services to do something wrong is still a form of prostitution.

    Not giving the judges a break, but hey, they can only rule on what is presented before them. A lawyer advocating for something immoral is just as wrong as a judge agreeing with him. Probably more so, as the lawyer had the option to decline the case.
    wtf? what is immoral in the OP? and as for criminals...you are stomping on the constitution...and to compare it with prostitution, your ignorance is appalling.

    go read up on the sixth amendment
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    gabs, do you have links to these purported stories? i would like to see more facts behind them before i jump to conclusions.

    and again folks, lawyers don't make the decisions, they are advocates, they are giving people their day in court. you don't like the outcome, you can't blame the lawyers, blame the decision makers and the laws that support the lawyers arguments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    gabs, do you have links to these purported stories? i would like to see more facts behind them before i jump to conclusions.

    and again folks, lawyers don't make the decisions, they are advocates, they are giving people their day in court. you don't like the outcome, you can't blame the lawyers, blame the decision makers and the laws that support the lawyers arguments.
    Indeed. This isn't rocket science. Who decided to let the gang member back on the street? Who awarded these greedy people any money they may have gotten?

    Hint: Not the lawyers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    Indeed. This isn't rocket science. Who decided to let the gang member back on the street? Who awarded these greedy people any money they may have gotten?

    Hint: Not the lawyers.
    yes. unfortunately we are the face, if you will, of the legal system. they throw eggs at the system and aim for us, not the real problem. i've seen people get upset that a lawyer made a certain argument in a case...well how could do that, it hurts that poor persons (other party) case. well, there was some law that supported the lawyers argument and guess what, if that lawyer did not make that argument the lawyer could get disciplined by the state bar for incompetency.

    its not like we all think our cases our winners, but if you have the case you have to be a zealous advocate or the law is going to get you in trouble.
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