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    Default How's That Obama Stimulus and Promise Of Change Doing?

    Answer - it's not

    Look what happened yesterday:


    DJIA 6,763.29 -299.64 -4.24%

    NASDAQ 1,322.85 -54.99 -3.99%

    S&P 500 700.82 -34.27 -4.66%

    30 Yr Bond 3.65 -0.07 -1.96%

    So far, Obama has had a bigger effect on the Dow then 9-11. After the 9-11terror attacks, the Dow lost about 2.000 points

    Since Obama won the election, the Dow has lost about 2,700 points


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    remember when Bush took office and inherited a recession that didn't even show itself until after he had been inaugurated? We really need to let the ink dry on the stimulus package and wait until some of those bridges start getting built and the economic activity begins to be generated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moderate democrat View Post
    remember when Bush took office and inherited a recession that didn't even show itself until after he had been inaugurated? We really need to let the ink dry on the stimulus package and wait until some of those bridges start getting built and the economic activity begins to be generated.
    Oh, back to Pres Bush again. Seems libs always talk about the FORMER President when confronted with the great record the CURRENT President has so far

    I do not remember Pres Bush submitting a $3.66 trillion budget with a $1.5 trillion deficit. Or taking away mortgage interest deductions and charitable contributions form those he consideres rich. Or wanting to soak the small minority who are paying the majority of the taxes for even more of their money. Or wanting a long list of tax cheats to work for him.

    Need I go on?


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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Oh, back to Pres Bush again. Seems libs always talk about the FORMER President when confronted with the great record the CURRENT President has so far

    I do not remember Pres Bush submitting a $3.66 trillion budget with a $1.5 trillion deficit. Or taking away mortgage interest deductions and charitable contributions form those he consideres rich. Or wanting to soak the small minority who are paying the majority of the taxes for even more of their money. Or wanting a long list of tax cheats to work for him.

    Need I go on?
    like I said... we need to wait until the stimulus package actually creates jobs and economic activity before we can judge its effectiveness.

    If you are baking a cake, you don't judge the cake while it is still room temperature batter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moderate democrat View Post
    like I said... we need to wait until the stimulus package actually creates jobs and economic activity before we can judge its effectiveness.

    If you are baking a cake, you don't judge the cake while it is still room temperature batter.
    And this is why Obama must fail. His policies are causing this and must be stopped

    Liberals don't care about that. Their guy is in office and that is all that matters.

    Investors and companies know this guy has them on his hit list, and they ared oing the only thing they can do - sell and lay off workers


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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    And this is why Obama must fail. His policies are causing this and must be stopped

    Liberals don't care about that. Their guy is in office and that is all that matters.

    Investors and companies know this guy has them on his hit list, and they ared oing the only thing they can do - sell and lay off workers
    so you would rather see the American economy sink into a terrible depression if if meant improving the public's opinion of the republican party?

    that is not surprising.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moderate democrat View Post
    so you would rather see the American economy sink into a terrible depression if if meant improving the public's opinion of the republican party?

    that is not surprising.
    Eh, we are sinking in that direction because of Obama's policies. Is that going to be your game plan - blame others for Obama's failed economic policies?

    Why not>?You guys did that with Carter's policies and Clinton's corruption


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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Eh, we are sinking in that direction because of Obama's policies. Is that going to be your game plan - blame others for Obama's failed economic policies?

    Why not>?You guys did that with Carter's policies and Clinton's corruption

    and YOU want the stimulus plan to fail...you do NOT want to see the economy revived. party over country for you...all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moderate democrat View Post
    and YOU want the stimulus plan to fail...you do NOT want to see the economy revived. party over country for you...all the time.
    I want Obama's tax, spend, and socialist policies to fail. Why whould anyone want to support the massive spending, huge deficits, big tax increases, expanding the welfare state, and political payoffs - unless they were puting party over country

    YOU can see the results of Obama's polices and how those who move America are judging them - if you would take the Obama provided blinders off


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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    I want Obama's tax, spend, and socialist policies to fail. Why whould anyone want to support the massive spending, huge deficits, big tax increases, expanding the welfare state, and political payoffs - unless they were puting party over country

    YOU can see the results of Obama's polices and how those who move America are judging them - if you would take the Obama provided blinders off
    the stimulus package is law. either you want it to succeed and stimulate the economy, or you want it to fail and watch the economy fail. Clearly, you chose the latter. party over country - pure and simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moderate democrat View Post
    the stimulus package is law. either you want it to succeed and stimulate the economy, or you want it to fail and watch the economy fail. Clearly, you chose the latter. party over country - pure and simple.
    So now I have to hope socialism works even though it has failed everywhere it has been tried?

    Looks to me like Obama's plan for U.S. economic decline and misery is going very well indeed. Stalin would be very proud of his student.

    What has he proposed or done that will increase private investment, which will spur job creation?

    He hasn’t, which is the reason the market is tanking


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    Quote Originally Posted by moderate democrat View Post
    and YOU want the stimulus plan to fail... .
    of course we do....anyone with a brain knows this idiotic bill isn't going to stimulate anything, it's only going to destroy the economy for generations to come.....unfortunately, the folks in charge of the government at the moment don't HAVE a brain.........what I want is for the country to survive it's current leadership.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    So now I have to hope socialism works even though it has failed everywhere it has been tried?

    Looks to me like Obama's plan for U.S. economic decline and misery is going very well indeed. Stalin would be very proud of his student.

    What has he proposed or done that will increase private investment, which will spur job creation?

    He hasn’t, which is the reason the market is tanking
    the country is in a crisis. we elected a leader. he is trying to save the economy. you want him to fail. that's party over country...there is no other way to spin that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moderate democrat View Post
    the country is in a crisis. we elected a leader. he is trying to save the economy. you want him to fail. that's party over country...there is no other way to spin that.
    No, libs elected a messiah - the rest of us are still looking for a leader

    Here is the "change" we can believe in


    NEW YORK (AP) -- The Dow Jones industrial average has plunged below 7,000 as investors grow increasingly pessimistic about the health of banks, and in turn the economy, around the world. The Dow hadn't traded below 7,000 since Oct. 28, 1997, and last closed below that mark on May 2 of that year. The credit crisis and recession have now slashed half the average's value since it hit a record high over 14,000 in October 2007.


    http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/090302/wall_street.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by moderate democrat View Post
    the country is in a crisis. we elected a leader. he is trying to save the economy. you want him to fail. that's party over country...there is no other way to spin that.
    look Democrat.....Obama was elected.....he has put together a plan that will not stimulate anything other than the rise of socialism.....it is intentional on his part....I want him to fail in converting this country to socialism......I want him to fail with all my heart......that isn't party over country....that's intelligence over idiocy.......the only spin being done here is the claim that this overbloated earmark laden pile of shit is a stimulus......
    ...full immersion.....

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