Results 1 to 6 of 6
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    45,781
    Thanks (Given)
    20
    Thanks (Received)
    1013
    Likes (Given)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    1
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    0
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    3867370

    Default Flashback: Carville Wanted Bush to Fail

    I do not recall the same level of outrage from the liberal media ove this as they have shown over what Rush said



    Flashback: Carville Wanted Bush to Fail

    The press never reported that Democratic strategist James Carville said he wanted President Bush to fail before the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. But a feeding frenzy ensued when radio host Rush Limbaugh recently said he wanted President Obama to fail.

    By Bill Sammon
    FOXNews.com


    On the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, just minutes before learning of the terrorist attacks on America, Democratic strategist James Carville was hoping for President Bush to fail, telling a group of Washington reporters: "I certainly hope he doesn't succeed."

    Carville was joined by Democratic pollster Stanley Greenberg, who seemed encouraged by a survey he had just completed that revealed public misgivings about the newly minted president.

    "We rush into these focus groups with these doubts that people have about him, and I'm wanting them to turn against him," Greenberg admitted.

    The pollster added with a chuckle of disbelief: "They don't want him to fail. I mean, they think it matters if the president of the United States fails."

    Minutes later, as news of the terrorist attacks reached the hotel conference room where the Democrats were having breakfast with the reporters, Carville announced: "Disregard everything we just said! This changes everything!"

    The press followed Carville's orders, never reporting his or Greenberg's desire for Bush to fail. The omission was understandable at first, as reporters were consumed with chronicling the new war on terror. But months and even years later, the mainstream media chose to never resurrect those controversial sentiments, voiced by the Democratic Party's top strategists, that Bush should fail.

    That omission stands in stark contrast to the feeding frenzy that ensued when radio host Rush Limbaugh recently said he wanted President Obama to fail. The press devoted wall-to-wall coverage to the remark, suggesting that Limbaugh and, by extension, conservative Republicans, were unpatriotic.

    "The most influential Republican in the United States today, Mr. Rush Limbaugh, said he did not want President Obama to succeed," Carville railed on CNN recently. "He is the daddy of this Republican Congress."

    Limbaugh, a staunch conservative, emphasized that he is rooting for the failure of Obama's liberal policies.

    "The difference between Carville and his ilk and me is that I care about what happens to my country," Limbaugh told Fox on Wednesday. "I am not saying what I say for political advantage. I oppose actions, such as Obama's socialist agenda, that hurt my country.

    "I deal in principles, not polls," Limbaugh added. "Carville and people like him live and breathe political exploitation. This is all a game to them. It's not a game to me. I am concerned about the well-being and survival of our nation. When has Carville ever advocated anything that would benefit the country at the expense of his party?"

    Carville told Politico that focusing on Limbaugh is a deliberate strategy aimed at undermining Republicans.

    "The television cameras just can't stay away from him," he said. "Our strategy depends on him keeping talking, and I think we're going to succeed."

    Greenberg added: "He's driving the Republican reluctance to deal with Obama, which Americans want."

    In 2006, 51 percent of Democrats wanted Bush to fail, according to a FOX News/Opinion Dynamics poll.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...ted-bush-fail/


    How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin.

    Ronald Reagan

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Posts
    1,813
    Thanks (Given)
    0
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Given)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    0

    Default

    "Minutes later, as news of the terrorist attacks reached the hotel conference room where the Democrats were having breakfast with the reporters, Carville announced: "Disregard everything we just said! This changes everything!""


    so...in times of crisis, the democrats did NOT want the President to fail. Therein lies the big difference between democrats and republicans. In times of crisis, the republicans WANT our president to fail

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    North Carolina
    Posts
    3,672
    Thanks (Given)
    177
    Thanks (Received)
    680
    Likes (Given)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    2
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    0
    Mentioned
    9 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    1200646

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by moderate democrat View Post
    "Minutes later, as news of the terrorist attacks reached the hotel conference room where the Democrats were having breakfast with the reporters, Carville announced: "Disregard everything we just said! This changes everything!""


    so...in times of crisis, the democrats did NOT want the President to fail. Therein lies the big difference between democrats and republicans. In times of crisis, the republicans WANT our president to fail
    Piss poor analogy.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    45,781
    Thanks (Given)
    20
    Thanks (Received)
    1013
    Likes (Given)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    1
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    0
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    3867370

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by glockmail View Post
    Piss poor analogy.
    Carville's statement shows the hyprocicy of the left.

    Rush clearly said he wants Obama's polcies to fail. His diesire to move the nation to the hard left, higher taxes, more government programs, and massive deficts

    Dems on the other hand, while our troops were fighting in Iraq - 51% of Dems wanted Pres Bush to fail in Iraq

    There is a huge difference for one man to say he wants the policies of a Dem President to fail - and the US military to fail while fighting a war


    How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin.

    Ronald Reagan

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Indiana
    Posts
    4,569
    Thanks (Given)
    470
    Thanks (Received)
    532
    Likes (Given)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    10
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    0
    Mentioned
    8 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    1486131

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Jagger View Post
    Ronald Reagan had no problem with higher taxes, more government and massive deficits. Why do you have a problem with them?
    Holy S*** can YOU get a freaking life already.. news flash for you Jerker, reagan isn't the president anymore and hasn't been for oh lets see........ 21 years.. get over it
    Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want." -Dr. Randy Pausch


    Death is lighter than a feather, Duty is heavier than a mountain

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Posts
    1,417
    Thanks (Given)
    0
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Given)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    546

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Carville's statement shows the hyprocicy of the left.

    Rush clearly said he wants Obama's polcies to fail. His diesire to move the nation to the hard left, higher taxes, more government programs, and massive deficts

    Dems on the other hand, while our troops were fighting in Iraq - 51% of Dems wanted Pres Bush to fail in Iraq

    There is a huge difference for one man to say he wants the policies of a Dem President to fail - and the US military to fail while fighting a war
    I never wanted Bush to fail. I always hoped he would succeed.

    Even in Iraq, which I considered the worst policy decision ever by a US president, I still hoped for a good outcome in Iraq....a stable democracy.

    I'd still like to see that outcome in Iraq. However, if it requires more American dollars, or more American lives, it's not worth it.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Debate Policy - Political Forums