Pope says rich nations plundered Poor

[GW in Ohio]

Without Western aid most of Africa would starve or die from disease. What is preventing them from taking control of thier own resources and build a country worth living in? Laziness or is it just that old entitlement thing again?

You know, I admire you, in a weird sort of way. You're an unabashed selfish pig, and that's an admirable quality....in white supremacist circles.

[Dilloduck]

You know, I admire you, in a weird sort of way. You're an unabashed selfish pig, and that's an admirable quality....in white supremacist circles.

Couldn't respond intelligently to the message, huh?

[Abbey Marie]

Without Western aid most of Africa would starve or die from disease. What is preventing them from taking control of thier own resources and build a country worth living in? Laziness or is it just that old entitlement thing again?

I was thinking somewhat similarly. Can we not question why the people of Africa did not take and utilize their own resources? Or is this one of those questions one "dare not pose" for fear of being called racist? Clinically speaking, isn't it just a form of the beloved survival of the fittest, if someone is able to conquer you, and/or better utilize your respurces?

[Dilloduck]

I was thinking somewhat similarly. Can we not question why the people of Africa did not take and utilize their own resources? Or is this one of those questions one "dare not pose" for fear of being called racist? Clinically speaking, isn't it just a form of the beloved survival of the fittest, if someone is able to conquer you, and/or better utilize your respurces?

Considering the fact that America was also a colony, it seems that it's quite possible to recover from the effects of colonialization.

[GW in Ohio]

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Originally Posted by Abbey
I was thinking somewhat similarly. Can we not question why the people of Africa did not take and utilize their own resources? Or is this one of those questions one "dare not pose" for fear of being called racist? Clinically speaking, isn't it just a form of the beloved survival of the fittest, if someone is able to conquer you, and/or better utilize your respurces?

Dilloduck:
Considering the fact that America was also a colony, it seems that it's quite possible to recover from the effects of colonialization.

Well, I'll acknowledge that you guys raise some valid questions.

Why haven't African nations pulled themselves up by their own bootstraps?

One reason may be that the tribal culture is so strongly ingrained, it's impossible for them to reach any consensus on a central government. Without a strong central government to set policy, a nation doesn't get very far.

In any case, I don't think the reason African nations are mostly mired in poverty is that they're shiftless and lazy.

[Nuc]

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smart enough to know how to spell Muslim.

Moslem and Muslim are interchangeable words. Anybody who has studied history knows that. Do a search or something before putting your cowboy boot in your mouth.

[Nuc]

Diamonds only such a high quality item because of marketing of the jewelers. But Ill grant you people have been exploited for them. It hardly qualifies as plundering wealth though.

Thousands of Africans are being treated in near slave fashion and dying in the mines to satisfy the diamond demand of the wealthier nations.

[Gaffer]

Thousands of Africans are being treated in near slave fashion and dying in the mines to satisfy the diamond demand of the wealthier nations.

Thousands of others from all parts of africa, the middle east and asia are being sold and used as slave labor, sex slaves and even household servants. It's not just blacks and its not just in africa.

[Nukeman]

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In any case, I don't think the reason African nations are mostly mired in poverty is that they're shiftless and lazy.

No not lazyness, just corrupt leaders and uneducated masses. Not to mention very racist views on life.

I will call your attention to Zimbabwe, this was a country that was for the most part self sufficient, feeding and taking care of itself, along comes Mugabe who either kickout all the white farmer without due compensation or had his thugs kill off the ones that wouldn't leave and low-and-behold we have a country starving, and begging the same people they kicked out to come back. I say let them starve and wallow in thier own regret... Than we wont be taking thier resources we will be repopulating vacant land..

This may seem harsh to you but you reap what you sow. If you kill or deport all your productive people than realize that is exactly what they are "PRODUCTIVE" you get exactly what you deserve!!!

[Nuc]

Thousands of others from all parts of africa, the middle east and asia are being sold and used as slave labor, sex slaves and even household servants. It's not just blacks and its not just in africa.

Yep tons of Eastern Europeans.

Sex slaves of every race, age and gender, and looks like hardly anybody wants to do anything about it.

[Dilloduck]

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Originally Posted by Abbey
I was thinking somewhat similarly. Can we not question why the people of Africa did not take and utilize their own resources? Or is this one of those questions one "dare not pose" for fear of being called racist? Clinically speaking, isn't it just a form of the beloved survival of the fittest, if someone is able to conquer you, and/or better utilize your respurces?

Dilloduck:
Considering the fact that America was also a colony, it seems that it's quite possible to recover from the effects of colonialization.

Well, I'll acknowledge that you guys raise some valid questions.

Why haven't African nations pulled themselves up by their own bootstraps?

One reason may be that the tribal culture is so strongly ingrained, it's impossible for them to reach any consensus on a central government. Without a strong central government to set policy, a nation doesn't get very far.

In any case, I don't think the reason African nations are mostly mired in poverty is that they're shiftless and lazy.

So are you saying that thier culture prevents them from "getting very far" ?

[GW in Ohio]

So are you saying that thier culture prevents them from "getting very far" ?

Yes, I think so. And I'd point out that culture is different from race.

Put any black African in a Western cultural milieu, with the same economic start in life as the Westerners, and their achievements are indistinguishable.

[-Cp]

Does anyone actually give a crap what the pope says anyway?

[grunt]

Yes, I think so. And I'd point out that culture is different from race.

Put any black African in a Western cultural milieu, with the same economic start in life as the Westerners, and their achievements are indistinguishable.

Are you crazy? Look at the black population in both Europe and the US...

[Psychoblues]

I really don't have the time or the inclination to address all that has been said in this thread. But, one thing is certain. Most of you are scared to death of the niggers.

That's not a good thing to know but it is a useful thing to realize.