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    Quote Originally Posted by Roomy View Post
    Hasn't everyone, without exception, committed a felony in the USA? Ignorance or not being caught is no defence.
    A felony? Unlikely. A misdemeanor and/or a felony? Probably. (Or is it "misdemeanour" in the UK? Haven't been back in a while.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roomy View Post
    Misspelling? I think real 'English' sticks in your craw, use the bastardised version if you must, and you must, I make exceptions for you.
    The queens revenge is what we called all the manuals written in “ENGLISH” and such with Hawker Sidly aircraft.
    UNITED STATES ARMY AVIATION

    Above the Best

    Why the Hell should I have to press “1” for ENGLISH?

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    Typo here is a little insight into what Washington is thinkg on the whole Pelosi issue. I personnaly think she is over stepping her athourity. She did not have permission to approach the Leader of Syria and no the common person or private citizen of the US does not have the ability to seek an audiance with another head of state.

    here is a quote from an article discussing this very thing.

    for the whole article please follow the link
    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=55067

    Turner says that while Pelosi certainly is not the first member of Congress to engage in this sort of behavior, "her position as a national leader, the wartime circumstances, the opposition to the trip from the White House and the character of the regime she has chosen to approach make her behavior particularly inappropriate."

    A purely fact-finding trip by a congressional delegation is not a problem, Turner says, nor is formal negotiation with foreign representatives if authorized by the president.
    "Ms. Pelosi's trip was not authorized, and Syria is one of the world's leading sponsors of international terrorism," Turner says. "It has almost certainly been involved in numerous attacks that have claimed the lives of American military personnel from Beirut to Baghdad."

    Turner concludes: "The U.S. is in the midst of two wars authorized by Congress. For Ms. Pelosi to [flout] the Constitution in these circumstances is not only shortsighted; it may well be a felony, as the Logan Act has been part of our criminal law for more than two centuries. Perhaps it is time to enforce the law."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. P View Post
    The queens revenge is what we called all the manuals written in “ENGLISH” and such with Hawker Sidly aircraft.
    Do you know what they call erasures in England? One of my friends did an internship there. She nearly fell over when a 9 year old boy said he needed another rubber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nukeman View Post
    Typo here is a little insight into what Washington is thinkg on the whole Pelosi issue. I personnaly think she is over stepping her athourity. She did not have permission to approach the Leader of Syria and no the common person or private citizen of the US does not have the ability to seek an audiance with another head of state.

    here is a quote from an article discussing this very thing.

    for the whole article please follow the link
    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=55067

    Turner says that while Pelosi certainly is not the first member of Congress to engage in this sort of behavior, "her position as a national leader, the wartime circumstances, the opposition to the trip from the White House and the character of the regime she has chosen to approach make her behavior particularly inappropriate."

    A purely fact-finding trip by a congressional delegation is not a problem, Turner says, nor is formal negotiation with foreign representatives if authorized by the president.
    "Ms. Pelosi's trip was not authorized, and Syria is one of the world's leading sponsors of international terrorism," Turner says. "It has almost certainly been involved in numerous attacks that have claimed the lives of American military personnel from Beirut to Baghdad."

    Turner concludes: "The U.S. is in the midst of two wars authorized by Congress. For Ms. Pelosi to [flout] the Constitution in these circumstances is not only shortsighted; it may well be a felony, as the Logan Act has been part of our criminal law for more than two centuries. Perhaps it is time to enforce the law."
    Nukeman, your own source says that fact-finding activities (not necessarily authorized by the president) are not a problem.

    So why would Mr. Turner be trying to whip his readers into such a frenzy? It couldn't possibly be to distract them from his party's failings, could it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by typomaniac View Post
    Nukeman, your own source says that fact-finding activities (not necessarily authorized by the president) are not a problem.

    So why would Mr. Turner be trying to whip his readers into such a frenzy? It couldn't possibly be to distract them from his party's failings, could it?
    I think you misread they must be approved by the executive branch!!

    here is the quote...
    A purely fact-finding trip by a congressional delegation is not a problem, Turner says, nor is formal negotiation with foreign representatives if authorized by the president
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nukeman View Post
    I think you misread they must be approved by the executive branch!!

    here is the quote...
    A purely fact-finding trip by a congressional delegation is not a problem, Turner says, nor is formal negotiation with foreign representatives if authorized by the president
    Well, if Mr. Turner really meant that fact-finding missions also had to be authorized by the president, his wording was totally wrong. (shrug)
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    Quote Originally Posted by typomaniac View Post
    Well, if Mr. Turner really meant that fact-finding missions also had to be authorized by the president, his wording was totally wrong. (shrug)
    Do you feel Pelosi had the proper authority to approach another head of state on behalf of the US????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nukeman View Post
    Do you feel Pelosi had the proper authority to approach another head of state on behalf of the US????
    IMO, she had every right to approach him as an American citizen, but not in any other special capacity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by typomaniac View Post
    IMO, she had every right to approach him as an American citizen, but not in any other special capacity.
    I agree but is that what you feel she did???
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    Do remember that she flew in an official congressional jet, with a full press corps available. If she truely was a private citizen, as you state, then she should have payed for her own ticket and flown commercial

    She went on the dime of the US tax payer that takes the private citizen aspect out of the equation all together.. That also puts her in the realm of a representative of the US congress
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nukeman View Post
    Do remember that she flew in an official congressional jet, with a full press corps available. If she truely was a private citizen, as you state, then she should have payed for her own ticket and flown commercial
    Not sure if that would have been possible. There might well be some rule that demands she have Secret Service protection, for instance.
    She went on the dime of the US tax payer that takes the private citizen aspect out of the equation all together..
    Mr. Cheney goes on vacation on the taxpayer's dime, too. It does not follow that everything he does while on vacation is done in his official capacity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by typomaniac View Post
    Not sure if that would have been possible. There might well be some rule that demands she have Secret Service protection, for instance.Mr. Cheney goes on vacation on the taxpayer's dime, too. It does not follow that everything he does while on vacation is done in his official capacity.
    Not true. Neither Cheney, Bush or Pelosi go on 'vacation' on our dimes. Red herring of the nth degree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by typomaniac View Post
    .Mr. Cheney goes on vacation on the taxpayer's dime, too. It does not follow that everything he does while on vacation is done in his official capacity.

    Your compairing apples and oranges. Going on vacation and visiting heads of state are completely different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Not true. Neither Cheney, Bush or Pelosi go on 'vacation' on our dimes. Red herring of the nth degree.
    But they do get from point A to point B on our dimes, which is what I meant. I apologize for the clumsy wording.
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