Do you believe Panetta or Pelosi?

[April15]

On the CIA's side all we have is the word of a man who is going by what is told him and on the other a person to whom it was told. I need more evidence to make any kind of judgment.

[Kathianne]

Seems the dems got their talking points regarding Panetta around 7 pm last night. On 5 different boards, about the same time, same lines being bandied. And you don't think you're sheep. LOL!

[Joe Steel]

Yes, they trust her to get as much pork delivered to them as possible, even the fine little mice get a piece of the pie.

Senator Bond, the guy who has been in all the media attacking Pelosi, says an elected official's job is to get as much as possible for his, or her, home state.

Do you believe him?

For once we agree, Obama has liars and cheats helping him run the show, too bad Pelosi is MORE of a liar than Panetta, and of course the FACTS only support the CIA's version of events.

What facts are those? The ones the CIA won't reveal?

[Joe Steel]

On the CIA's side all we have is the word of a man who is going by what is told him and on the other a person to whom it was told. I need more evidence to make any kind of judgment.

Exactly. Panetta doesn't know anything more than the professional liars tell him.

[jimnyc]

Senator Bond, the guy who has been in all the media attacking Pelosi says an elected official's job is to get as much as possible for his, or her, home state. Do you believe him?

I believe they are supposed to represent their constituents and shoot for what is truly needed, and nothing more.

What facts are those? The ones the CIA won't reveal?

Panetta, nominated by our CIC, spoke of FACTS concerning Pelosi's knowledge. Pelosi, speaker of the house, swears she knew nothing. Both speaking factually - one of them is lying.

So which is it, the speaker of the house or Obama's nominated CIA leader?

[Joe Steel]

I believe they are supposed to represent their constituents and shoot for what is truly needed, and nothing more.



Panetta, nominated by our CIC, spoke of FACTS concerning Pelosi's knowledge. Pelosi, speaker of the house, swears she knew nothing. Both speaking factually - one of them is lying.

So which is it, the speaker of the house or Obama's nominated CIA leader?

Panetta may actually believe what he's saying. Nevertheless, I don't believe him. The CIA lies for a living. It's full of professional liars. That's what it does. Even Bond admitted it; although he says they've never lied to Congress.

[jimnyc]

Exactly. Panetta doesn't know anything more than the professional liars tell him.

So maybe he shouldn't address the American people factually. Maybe Obama should rethink his choice for CIA chief? You are inferring that Obama's choice is taking hearsay and speaking out as fact about events from 2002. Either he is privy to documentation backing up his factual statements or he is lying, or the 30 million dollar mice collector is lying.

[jimnyc]

Panetta may actually believe what he's saying. Nevertheless, I don't believe him. The CIA lies for a living. It's full of professional liars. That's what it does.

I hope you'll now revisit all the prior threads about GW and WMD's, and state that he was likely lied to by the CIA about intel and he wasn't the one who supposedly lied to the American people.

[Joe Steel]

I hope you'll now revisit all the prior threads about GW and WMD's, and state that he was likely lied to by the CIA about intel and he wasn't the one who supposedly lied to the American people.

It's one thing to be deceived and another to be a participant in the deception. The Bush regime wanted a war and they willing accepted whatever the CIA said and, as in the case of Cheney's pressure on the analysts, even helped develop it.

[jimnyc]

It's one thing to be deceived and another to be a participant in the deception. The Bush regime wanted a war and they willing accepted whatever the CIA said and, as in the case of Cheney's pressure on the analysts, even helped develop it.

Can you PROVE that the "lies" told to the GW administration was done in any different many whatsoever than the current issue with Pelosi?

[Joe Steel]

So maybe he shouldn't address the American people factually. Maybe Obama should rethink his choice for CIA chief? You are inferring that Obama's choice is taking hearsay and speaking out as fact about events from 2002. Either he is privy to documentation backing up his factual statements or he is lying, or the 30 million dollar mice collector is lying.

Disappointedly, I must agree. I think Obama is "triangulating" and Obama is doing what he's been told to do.

[Joe Steel]

Can you PROVE that the "lies" told to the GW administration was done in any different many whatsoever than the current issue with Pelosi?

The evidence points to a cooperative deception. The CIA and Bush administration officials worked together to deceive the American People.

[jimnyc]

The evidence points to a cooperative deception. The CIA and Bush administration officials worked together to deceive the American People.

Interesting, I would love to see your proof that Bush, Powell and others that delivered messages to us about WMD's (including the Dems that were leading the Senate Intelligence Committee) were acting in concert to lie to us.

[Kathianne]

The evidence points to a cooperative deception. The CIA and Bush administration officials worked together to deceive the American People.

Then one needs to account for how the CIA leaked so much trying to cause GW to lose in 2004.

[red states rule]

The evidence points to a cooperative deception. The CIA and Bush administration officials worked together to deceive the American People.

Sorry Joe, the blame Bush BS is no longer working

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