conversation with my dad

[actsnoblemartin]

about healthcare.

and how the system cheats doctors, by paying them less and less money on medicare and medicaid, and how the whole government system is crooked.

I wish i could support obamacare, but my common sense tells me, government does a great job at protecting our borders, protecting our civil rights, our free speech, and other things.

[Psychoblues]

Cheats? I don't think so, martin.

about healthcare.

and how the system cheats doctors, by paying them less and less money on medicare and medicaid, and how the whole government system is crooked.

I wish i could support obamacare, but my common sense tells me, government does a great job at protecting our borders, protecting our civil rights, our free speech, and other things.

Please clarify.



Psychoblues

[actsnoblemartin]

the government would say, we'll pay you 2200 for surgery and then within a couple of years pay 600.

Its the same way medicare and medical, excuse me and medicaid pay not enough for the services of doctors.

And you dont believe the government cheats us, just look at our border my dear friend

Cheats? I don't think so, martin.




Please clarify.



Psychoblues

[actsnoblemartin]

I probably should have said what my dad does or did. He is retired now.

He was an oncologist, (cancer doctor) dealing with prostate cancer, he is actually quite brilliant, and was innovative, in new approaches, that the medical community is just now embracing

you wouldnt believe how slow the medical field is/how obstinent they are to change.

Cheats? I don't think so, martin.




Please clarify.



Psychoblues

[actsnoblemartin]

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[Psychoblues]

Holy Moly, martin!

You are fuckin' my mind up!



Psychoblues

[actsnoblemartin]

http://www.reason.com/news/show/134838.html

http://www.sunjournal.com/node/108653/

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125113580959054311.html

[actsnoblemartin]

sorry, my ocd

Holy Moly, martin!

You are fuckin' my mind up!



Psychoblues

[actsnoblemartin]

Three dissenting opinions, or in favor of the public option links

http://www.fool.com/investing/genera...apitalism.aspx

http://www.dailymarkets.com/economy/...are-are-wrong/

http://bloggerinterrupted.com/2009/0...on-their-terms

[actsnoblemartin]

there you go pb, three links against the public option, and 3 for it

Now everyone on the board, can have a fair and balanced look at this issue, without being bombarded.

and can use quotes from any of the 6 links, three pro, three against, to make their arguments, if they so choose

Holy Moly, martin!

You are fuckin' my mind up!



Psychoblues

[Psychoblues]

And you call all of that "fair"?

there you go pb, three links against the public option, 2 for it, and one for single payer.

Now everyone on the board, can have a fair and balanced look at this issue, without being bombarded.

and can use quotes from any of the 6 links, three pro, three against, to make their arguments, if they so choose

Can we avoid these name calling episodes?



Psychoblues

[actsnoblemartin]

I made an honest effort.

Can you give me an example of name calling?

And you call all of that "fair"?




Can we avoid these name calling episodes?



Psychoblues

[actsnoblemartin]

here is what i did,

two different searches

Against public option

http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=...2=sb-top&sao=1

and for

http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=...2=sb-top&sao=1

perhaps i should have put

http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=...2=sb-top&sao=1

[Psychoblues]

So you and your dad thind medicare is a failed project.

here is what i did,

two different searches

Against public option

http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=...2=sb-top&sao=1

and for

http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=...2=sb-top&sao=1

perhaps i should have put

http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=...2=sb-top&sao=1

What are you doing to eliminate it or are you being right wing hypocrits and praising medicare while condemning similar availability of healthcare to other equally deserving Americans?

Have you no shame?



Psychoblues

[actsnoblemartin]

I do not know if my dad thinks it was a failed project, I only spoke of his experiences with government in general.

But i believe he did deal with medicare being a doctor and all.

Now on to the second point, Im not involved in politics this much.

im not involved politically in this issue.

I do believe medicare is a failed project based on the fact, that were nearly broke.

we cant afford it, thats the bottom line.

now I think we can fix the system, but its gonna be hard, but the government has not fixed one problem that im aware of , rather just made it worse, and get the poor poor.

So you and your dad thind medicare is a failed project.

What are you doing to eliminate it or are you being right wing hypocrits and praising medicare while condemning similar availability of healthcare to other equally deserving Americans?

Have you no shame?



Psychoblues