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    Arrow Coming To Our Shores.......NOW!

    YOU NEED TO WATCH THESE...

    These are clips from a documentary that is being shown in Britain TODAY...RIGHT NOW....
    Of course it's being denounced and protested by the Muslim Council of that Country.....And would be protested by the same if shown here....

    Inside Those ‘Moderate’ Mosques
    by Jay @ 8:33 pm. Filed under War On Terror, News, Video
    If this is going on inside the so called ‘moderate Mosques’ in Britain, why wouldn’t it be going on in many of our own. One more reason the rules in this war need to change.



    http://stoptheaclu.com/archives/2007...erate-mosques/


    The Irate Nation Says:
    January 16th, 2007 at 1:16 am
    ‘Moderate’ Mosques - Yeah Right!

    This is just part one of the documentary Dispatches: Undercover Mosque by UK Channel 4, exposing evidence of Islamic supremacism, and support for violence at a number of Britain’s leading mosques and Muslim institutions.
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    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself."
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    It is here now...from a poster on another site.

    ...Afterwards it dawned on me that I went to a Shite mosque.

    Ordinarily, this wouldnt be a major thing. Im Sunni and all, but here in the States for the most part, Mosques don't identify there sect, all Muslims are welcome. I told my wife and she was a little pissed. She's a hardliner btw....

    However, I kinda liked it.

    So I convinced her to go this past Sunday for Eid, because I wanted to be sure, and thats when it happened: The same cleric, same dress, etc. during his Kutbah (sermon) said something along the lines that 9/11 was a government conspiracy! Shocked Shocked, I just looked dumbfounded and went slack jawed. He looked around the Mosque and saw my face and gave this erie smirk....

    After services, my wifes blood was boiling, she couldnt believe what we just heard. Our old mosque's Imam would never make such heated accusations. Imams are supposed to keep personal "tinfoil" ideas to themselves, but this loosed lipped one didnt. ....
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    what should we do? should we assume that all muslims are our enemies? should be round up American muslims - including the elected member of congress - and put them all in detention camps for the duration of the war against Islam? What "rules of war" have anything to do with muslim worship in mosques in American cities?

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    what should we do? should we assume that all muslims are our enemies? should be round up American muslims - including the elected member of congress - and put them all in detention camps for the duration of the war against Islam? What "rules of war" have anything to do with muslim worship in mosques in American cities?
    There is a difference between worshipping and advocating killing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    what should we do? should we assume that all muslims are our enemies? should be round up American muslims - including the elected member of congress - and put them all in detention camps for the duration of the war against Islam? What "rules of war" have anything to do with muslim worship in mosques in American cities?
    I think it’s fair to assume all Muslims are potential enemies.

    My guess is the intelligence community looks at it that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    There is a difference between worshipping and advocating killing.

    no kidding?

    can you answer my questions? Here...let me pose them again:

    what should we do? should we assume that all muslims are our enemies? should be round up American muslims - including the elected member of congress - and put them all in detention camps for the duration of the war against Islam? What "rules of war" have anything to do with muslim worship in mosques in American cities?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. P View Post
    I think it’s fair to assume all Muslims are potential enemies.

    My guess is the intelligence community looks at it that way.
    as fair as it is to assume that all redneck white folks from south of the mason dixon line are potential enemies.

    We have freedom of religion in America. Millions of hard working, taxpaying American citizens are muslims. If they are now potential enemies....then all of us are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    as fair as it is to assume that all redneck white folks from south of the mason dixon line are potential enemies.

    We have freedom of religion in America. Millions of hard working, taxpaying American citizens are muslims. If they are now potential enemies....then all of us are.
    You know of an organized group of rednecks that believe if you don't eat chitlins and attend a Baptist church you must die? Your analogy is weak.

    I don’t think it’s unreasonable at all to exercise caution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. P View Post
    You know of an organized group of rednecks that believe if you don't eat chitlins and attend a Baptist church you must die? Your analogy is weak.

    I don’t think it’s unreasonable at all to exercise caution.
    then please just answer these questions:

    should we assume that all muslims are our enemies? should be round up American muslims - including the elected member of congress - and put them all in detention camps for the duration of the war against Islam? What "rules of war" have anything to do with muslim worship in mosques in American cities?


    How do you "exercise caution" when discriminating against your own citizens and considering certain groups of them to be "potential enemies" solely on the basis of their religion? What civil rights do you flush down the toilet in the exercise of that caution?

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    what should we do?
    - The FBI should infiltrate Islamic fundie groups with undercover agents
    - Examine bank accounts
    - Profile
    - Wiretap
    - Background checks

    Personally I feel that the muslim community is to blame for the negative attitudes against them. The muslim community has had poor public relations in trying to get back in the good graces of the general public since 9/11. As a whole, the muslim leaders haven't done enough to renounce the violent aspects of Islam, they don't condemn the extremists, and haven't done enough to reform Islam from within. I'm not scared around or bigoted towards muslims but I also don't shed any tears for them when they cry about their 1st and 4th Amendment rights being violated either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    no kidding?

    can you answer my questions? Here...let me pose them again:

    what should we do? should we assume that all muslims are our enemies? should be round up American muslims - including the elected member of congress - and put them all in detention camps for the duration of the war against Islam? What "rules of war" have anything to do with muslim worship in mosques in American cities?
    As far as I am concerned anyone who advcates killing ANYONE is a criminal and not simply exercising thier right to practice thier religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    As far as I am concerned anyone who advcates killing ANYONE is a criminal and not simply exercising thier right to practice thier religion.
    that is not an answer to my questions, however.

    I am curious, however...do you advocate the killing of Osama bin Laden?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirt mcgirt View Post
    - The FBI should infiltrate Islamic fundie groups with undercover agents
    - Examine bank accounts
    - Profile
    - Wiretap
    - Background checks

    Personally I feel that the muslim community is to blame for the negative attitudes against them. The muslim community has had poor public relations in trying to get back in the good graces of the general public since 9/11. As a whole, the muslim leaders haven't done enough to renounce the violent aspects of Islam, they don't condemn the extremists, and haven't done enough to reform Islam from within. I'm not scared around or bigoted towards muslims but I also don't shed any tears for them when they cry about their 1st and 4th Amendment rights being violated either.
    I agree with much of that.... certainly the use of undercover agents

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    that is not an answer to my questions, however.

    I am curious, however...do you advocate the killing of Osama bin Laden?
    In self defense? You bet--somehow I don't see muslims wanting to kill all infidels as self defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manfrommaine View Post
    then please just answer these questions:

    should we assume that all muslims are our enemies? should be round up American muslims - including the elected member of congress - and put them all in detention camps for the duration of the war against Islam? What "rules of war" have anything to do with muslim worship in mosques in American cities?


    How do you "exercise caution" when discriminating against your own citizens and considering certain groups of them to be "potential enemies" solely on the basis of their religion? What civil rights do you flush down the toilet in the exercise of that caution?
    I answered the only reasonable question you asked, the rest are ridicules.
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