The only mistake of his righteous outburst was that the liberal media will be able to spin it into "Oh my gosh how ugly the comment and the GOP is." Instead of looking at what Obama said and realizing it WAS a lie.
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The only mistake of his righteous outburst was that the liberal media will be able to spin it into "Oh my gosh how ugly the comment and the GOP is." Instead of looking at what Obama said and realizing it WAS a lie.
How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin.
Ronald Reagan
Registered Conservative
They're already selling bumper stickers!
http://www.zazzle.com/obamacare_you_...64140393017086
PRAIRIE FIRE by William Ayers: Obama's guide to destory America
"Maybe I missed that part of the Constitution"--Joe Steel
You can't spell Liberals without Lies.
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Finally, Obama polices are stimulating parts of the economy besides unemployment, and foreclosuresOriginally Posted by theHawk
How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin.
Ronald Reagan
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How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin.
Ronald Reagan
Southpark Liberal
Never mind that he was WRONG. HR 3200 explicitly states that no funds wil be devoted to healthcare for those who are in the US illegally. So there was no point to get across. Besides the one on your head that is.He should have never apologized...But sometimes it's better to ask for forgiveness than ask for permission.
He got his point across.
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Yes and Dems voted down the language to make people prove they are citizens. So if there is no way to prove someone is an illegal you can't deny them the health care.
So tell us Bully, what is going to prevent an illiegal alien from getting the health care? When they fill out the government application and are never asked about citizenship how can the government enforce that statement of not funding illegals?
PRAIRIE FIRE by William Ayers: Obama's guide to destory America
"Maybe I missed that part of the Constitution"--Joe Steel
You can't spell Liberals without Lies.
Super Minion
Like the Democrats that booed at Bush's state of union address, he chose wrong venue, so he should have apologized. Still waiting for same from Democrats,He should have never apologized...But sometimes it's better to ask for forgiveness than ask for permission.
He got his point across.. So yes, the apology was warranted, and expertly stated. Not for content, but for venue.
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Well said!Like the Democrats that booed at Bush's state of union address, he chose wrong venue, so he should have apologized. Still waiting for same from Democrats,However, there is no adequate venue by which the president can be called down publicly by members of congress. That's the sad part of it all; as long as the leader of any nation is treated as if he is above reproach he will continue to speak with a forked tongue.
Seasoned Citizen
What better venue than the halls of Congress?Like the Democrats that booed at Bush's state of union address, he chose wrong venue, so he should have apologized. Still waiting for same from Democrats,
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In a perfect world.....but apparently even there the accountability of our nation's leader isn't held to the light. The lack of adequate examination of all these dubious czars is a reflection of that fact.
While we may see congressional members on television publicly disputing something that was said, there is no genuine open debate with the president, as witnessed by the so called town hall meetings.
I think it is sad that Joe Wilson has been treated as a scape goat while, as Kathianne pointed out earlier, Bush was heckled openly. I think it is the unbalance of the scales that is so disconcerting for so many of us.
Transplanted Yankee
I heard the plan is to simply change the status of the illegals through an amnesty or such and then they'll be in the US lawfully and eligible for the public option, so technically, we won't be giving healthcare to illegal aliens...we'll be giving it to legalized illegal aliens. The difference makes me feel so much better about the whole thing...doesn't it you?
Registered Conservative
I think it would of been more appropriate for all the Repubs to get up and walk out after he started spewing the lies. The President has no business addressing Congress to sway legislation like that, its a matter for the people to decide not Emperor Obama. Presidents should only be addressing Congress for the State of the Union or when declaring war (maybe he was though).Like the Democrats that booed at Bush's state of union address, he chose wrong venue, so he should have apologized. Still waiting for same from Democrats,
PRAIRIE FIRE by William Ayers: Obama's guide to destory America
"Maybe I missed that part of the Constitution"--Joe Steel
You can't spell Liberals without Lies.
Senior Member
Thanks to Joe Wilson, coverage of ilegals will be looked at more closely. Obama is a liar and here is an article that ran 3 days ago
The proof that ObamaCare will cover illegal immigrants
From States News Service ('Facts are Stubborn Things: Implications of HR 3200,' 8/25/09)...
ObamaCare:
1. Does Not Require Proof of Citizenship to Obtain Health Services: While Section 246 (page 143) of the bill expressly prohibits illegal aliens from receiving government-run healthcare, the bill does not include a specific requirement that a person prove his or her citizenship in order to obtain affordability credits, which means that illegal aliens could obtain coverage.
Section 152 states that "all health care and related services (including insurance coverage and public health activities) covered by this Act shall be provided without regard to personal characteristics extraneous to the provision of high quality health care or related services". This provision has the potential to include illegal immigrants because it may interpret "personal characteristics" to include legal status (Pages 50-51, 143).
2. Requires That If One Family Member Is Covered, All Members Covered: Another provision states that if one member of a family is afforded coverage all members would have coverage, thereby creating another loophole to give taxpayer-subsidized health care to illegal aliens. If a child of illegal aliens is born in the United States, then the entire family becomes eligible for coverage (Page 133).
3. Requires Free Translation Services: Sections 1222 of the bill will provide free translation services and interpreters to those who are not proficient in English. Section 1728 amends SCHIP to provide translation services to children of families and other individuals for whom English is not the primary language (Pages 408-418 and 782).
Meanwhile, 83% of Americans want citizenship verification requirements for any new health care legislation...but not Democrats. Who are the extremists here?
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http://www.examiner.com/x-17412-Maco...gal-immigrants
How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin.
Ronald Reagan
Southern comfort!
Lets see now....say the bill is written like that, but no one can ask if anyone
is in the country legally....not anyone for any reason...viola, blessed are
those who will receive....at our expense. Cant ask so it doesnt apply!
Free for all...but the taxpayer.
Explain that away.
What are reparations? Making me pay
for something I had nothing to do with compensates no one
who suffered an injustice therefore I would be penalized for
something I didnt do and someone else would receive a settlement
for an injury they did not suffer.
Southern comfort!
Oh, that would have been great! I am not sure there are that many Pubs
that understand what side of the aisle they belong on. We keep trying to
send them the message!
What are reparations? Making me pay
for something I had nothing to do with compensates no one
who suffered an injustice therefore I would be penalized for
something I didnt do and someone else would receive a settlement
for an injury they did not suffer.
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