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    Default Alot Of Dimes Unaccounted For

    Another lie Obama told during his speech was Obamacare will NOT add a dime to the debt

    Well, even the Washington Post publishes there is an issue whoth Obama's healthcare math


    Health-Care Math
    Mr. Obama says he won't add one dime to the deficit, but a lot of dimes remain unaccounted for.


    WHEN POLITICIANS start talking about paying for programs by cutting "waste and abuse," you should get nervous. When they don't provide specifics -- and when the amounts under discussion are in the hundreds of billions of dollars -- you should get even more nervous.

    President Obama outlined, in his speech to Congress last week, a sensible framework for health-care reform. But here are a few questions he has yet to answer:

    -- What exact combination of new revenue and spending cuts is the administration proposing?


    -- Will that financing be adequate to underwrite the cost of expanded coverage -- not only within the 10-year budget window but beyond?


    -- What mechanisms does the administration envision, if any, to control costs if they are greater than anticipated or if projected savings don't materialize?

    One approach the president endorsed Wednesday night was to tax insurance companies that offer excessively generous plans, although he did not offer details of the threshold at which this would apply. The administration apparently would set the allowable limit higher -- and therefore bring in significantly less money -- than the plan being crafted by Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.). Mr. Baucus, whose proposed tax is estimated to reap $200 billion over 10 years, would tax plans exceeding $21,000 for a family of four. He would index that cap to the regular consumer price index, not the far higher rate of inflation in medical costs. The lower the initial limit and the lower the inflation index, the more effective the tax would be in restraining health costs, so to the extent that the administration and Mr. Baucus diverge, the Baucus plan is preferable.

    Beyond the insurance tax, Mr. Obama was vague about where the money would come from, and administration officials have since declined to provide specifics. Previously, the administration outlined $635 billion in Medicare and Medicaid savings, but it is not clear what it now envisions beyond cutting payments to Medicare Advantage plans that receive higher payments than regular Medicare providers and reducing subsidies to hospitals for treating the uninsured as that population diminishes. Squishy talk about cutting "hundreds of billions of dollars in waste and fraud" isn't enough.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...091202347.html


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    And if they know where all this fraud is why arent they cleaning it up instead of just using it as a tool to defraud and mislead to us?
    What are reparations? Making me pay
    for something I had nothing to do with compensates no one
    who suffered an injustice therefore I would be penalized for
    something I didnt do and someone else would receive a settlement
    for an injury they did not suffer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cat slave View Post
    And if they know where all this fraud is why arent they cleaning it up instead of just using it as a tool to defraud and mislead to us?
    If Obama did that, it would make this "crisis" into a problem. Besides, it would also lead to a smaller annual budget

    Can't have that Cat Slave.


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