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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Maybe Obama will honor Gen McChrystal with a phone call during the flight over to Denmark. Just think about it - Obama will speak to him TWICE about the war

    Wow, what a guy
    The whole question of IF we should send more makes Obama look like such a ass, Generals telling him we need them he promised them, but now that he may piss of his dem buddies he would rather let our troops suffer over there, a real American patriot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff View Post
    The whole question of IF we should send more makes Obama look like such a ass, Generals telling him we need them he promised them, but now that he may piss of his dem buddies he would rather let our troops suffer over there, a real American patriot
    If he sends more troops it will piss off his kook base of peace niks and anti war nuts

    If he does not send the troops, the US could lose this fight. Remember, Obama was opposed to the surge in Iraq - even when it was clear how successful it was

    Obama will have to decide which is a bigger hit. He will never consider the fact the troops are asking their CIC for help - only how it will help or hurt him politically


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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    If he sends more troops it will piss off his kook base of peace niks and anti war nuts

    If he does not send the troops, the US could lose this fight. Remember, Obama was opposed to the surge in Iraq - even when it was clear how successful it was

    Obama will have to decide which is a bigger hit. He will never consider the fact the troops are asking their CIC for help - only how it will help or hurt him politically
    So comforting to know our president is party over country, he is a true Liberal, a black Virgil, how patriotic of him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff View Post
    So comforting to know our president is party over country, he is a true Liberal, a black Virgil, how patriotic of him
    So now Obama has to deal with San Fran Nan

    Funny how Pelosi wants to "listen" to the people when it comes to Afghanistan - but wants to ignore and smear them when it comes to Obamacare



    The Afghan Waver
    Speaker Nancy Pelosi flip-flops on Afghanistan

    In a ceremony at the Pentagon yesterday commemorating the attacks of September 11, President Obama said: "Let us renew our resolve against those who perpetrated this barbaric act and who plot against us still. In defense of our nation, we will never waver."

    Sometime soon, Mr. Obama will have to respond to Lieutenant General Stanley McChrystal's likely request to increase the number of American troops in Afghanistan.

    This past Thursday, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi gave the most explicit suggestion so far that Democrats may oppose any such request. "I don't think there is a great deal of support for sending more troops to Afghanistan," Speaker Pelosi said, "in the country or in Congress."

    It is well known that Mr. Obama has called Afghanistan a "war of necessity." Less publicized is that in 2007 Speaker Pelosi was also saying that our real interests were in Afghanistan. "The war on terror is in Afghanistan," Ms. Pelosi said just two years ago. "The fact that we weakened our commitment to Afghanistan in order to concentrate in Iraq has taken a toll."

    If President Obama wants to join her in forsaking an earlier commitment, that is his prerogative. The worst outcome, though, would be the spectacle of American indecisiveness. That would disserve the U.S. forces fighting on our behalf and our allies, including those in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

    Whatever President Obama's decision on the McChrystal report, the one thing he should not let the world see is a Presidential waver.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...921341384.html


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    Default Reviewing the strategy

    White House Begins Afghan War Strategy Review
    Obama administration unexpectedly decided to review its strategy in Afghanistan after a series of recent setbacks in the war, including fraud allegations following last month's presidential elections

    The Wall Street Journal

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    Wednesday, September 30, 2009

    WASHINGTON -- The White House began its review of the Afghan war strategy in earnest Tuesday, with senior administration officials meeting via videoconference with the top commander in Kabul, Gen. Stanley McChrystal, at the start of what could be weeks of debate over whether to send thousands of reinforcements.

    White House officials said President Barack Obama will join in the discussions Wednesday, when he is expected to meet with Vice President Joe Biden and Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, among other top officials.

    The White House unexpectedly decided to review its strategy in Afghanistan after a series of recent setbacks in the war, including allegations of fraud following last month's presidential elections and surging violence throughout the country. It begins just days after Gen. McChrystal submitted his request for as many as 40,000 additional troops to the Pentagon.

    Some in the administration, notably Biden, have argued for a smaller military footprint and a tighter focus on counterterrorism as the best way forward.

    Advocates of such a shift point to the effective use of Predator drone strikes to kill Taliban leaders in Pakistan. Two additional Predators are expected to be shifted soon to the region to patrol the Afghanistan-Pakistan border, according to people familiar with the decision, a move that would bring the total drones in the theater to a number the military has wanted for years.

    Obama gave voice to a possible shift in emphasis on Tuesday when he spoke of "dismantling, disrupting, destroying the Al Qaeda network" as the mission, without mentioning the Taliban. He also said the U.S. is working with the Afghans to bring security to the country.
    source: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...-war-strategy/

    more at WSJ......

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1254...DDLETopStories

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    Other countries, as well as the terrorists, see Pres Obama for what he really is



    Barack Obama: President Pantywaist - new surrender monkey on the block


    President Barack Obama has recently completed the most successful foreign policy tour since Napoleon’s retreat from Moscow. You name it, he blew it. What was his big deal economic programme that he was determined to drive through the G20 summit? Another massive stimulus package, globally funded and co-ordinated. Did he achieve it? Not so as you’d notice.

    Barack is not the first New World ingenue to discover that European leaders will load him with praise, struggle sycophantically to be photographed with him and outdo him in Utopian rhetoric. But when it comes to the critical moment of opening their wallets - suddenly it is flag-day in Aberdeen. Okay, put the G20 down to inexperience, beginner’s nerves, what you will.

    On to Nato and the next big objective: to persuade the same European evasion experts that America, Britain and Canada should no longer bear the brunt of the Afghan struggle virtually unassisted. The Old World sucked through its teeth, said that was asking a lot - but, seeing it was Barack, to whom they could refuse nothing, they would graciously accede to his wishes.

    So The One retired triumphant, having secured a massive contribution of 5,000 extra troops - all of them non-combatant, of course - which must really have put the wind up the Taliban, at the prospect of 5,000 more infidel cooks and bottle-washers swarming into the less hazardous regions of Afghanistan.

    Then came the dramatic bit, the authentic West Wing script, with the President wakened in the middle of the night in Prague to be told that Kim Jong-il had just launched a Taepodong-2 missile. America had Aegis destroyers tracking the missile and could have shot it down. But Uncle Sam had a sterner reprisal in store for l’il ole Kim (as Dame Edna might call him): a multi-megaton strike of Obama hot air.

    “Rules must be binding,” declared Obama, referring to the fact that Kim had just breached UN Resolutions 1695 and 1718. “Violations must be punished.” (Sounds ominous.) “Words must mean something.” (Why, Barack? They never did before, for you - as a cursory glance at your many speeches will show.)

    President Pantywaist is hopping mad and he has a strategy to cut Kim down to size: he is going to slice $1.4bn off America’s missile defence programme, presumably on the calculation that Kim would feel it unsporting to hit a sitting duck, so that will spoil his fun.

    Watch out, France and Co, there is a new surrender monkey on the block and, over the next four years, he will spectacularly sell out the interests of the West with every kind of liberal-delusionist initiative on nuclear disarmament and sitting down to negotiate with any power freak who wants to buy time to get a good ICBM fix on San Francisco, or wherever. If you thought the world was a tad unsafe with Dubya around, just wait until President Pantywaist gets into his stride.

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ge..._on_the_block/


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    We wouldn't be "giving up." We would be handing the country back to its rightful owners. <br>
    Bring home ALL our troops to protect OUR country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    We wouldn't be "giving up." We would be handing the country back to its rightful owners. <br>
    Bring home ALL our troops to protect OUR country.
    OOO and just tell the terrorist ya better not do it again, LOL, We have the toughest Men and Woman in uniform, Obama needs to sit his scrawny ass down and let the Generals take care of business, if he would do this, along with all politicians it would be over rather quick

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    It will NEVER be over, whether we are there or not.
    The United States is in greater danger from drug lords and internal terrorists than we are from those in foreign countries.
    Our "mission" was "accomplished" long ago. We need to step away and allow the Iraqis and Afghans to run their own countries. There is no reason we need to stay there in any more than an advisory capacity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    It will NEVER be over, whether we are there or not.
    The United States is in greater danger from drug lords and internal terrorists than we are from those in foreign countries.
    Our "mission" was "accomplished" long ago. We need to step away and allow the Iraqis and Afghans to run their own countries. There is no reason we need to stay there in any more than an advisory capacity.
    No, our biggest danger is liberasl like you who would rather stick their heads in the sand and leave their backside exposed to be kicked

    People like you Gabby are weak and naive. You honestly think if we leave the terrorists alone they will go away. Well they will not. They will see the weakness and harden their resolve to kill as many Americans as possible

    You are always the first to attack and smear the members of the US military. but you wil always be the first to hide behind them for protection. Even though they know the low opinion you have for them - they would still die trying to keep your sorry ass safe


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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    It will NEVER be over, whether we are there or not.
    The United States is in greater danger from drug lords and internal terrorists than we are from those in foreign countries.
    Our "mission" was "accomplished" long ago. We need to step away and allow the Iraqis and Afghans to run their own countries. There is no reason we need to stay there in any more than an advisory capacity.
    I dis agree Gabs, you have a good point, but if we stop them before they hit our soil no chance of a problem then, If our Leader would just allow the Generals and men and woman of our armed forces to do what they are trained to do and give them what they need then it would get accomplished, after cleaning up in Afghanistan go on to the next group of nut jobs, eventually they will realize we don't and wont take shit , and Allah isn't helping them they may just back off

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff View Post
    I dis agree Gabs, you have a good point, but if we stop them before they hit our soil no chance of a problem then, If our Leader would just allow the Generals and men and woman of our armed forces to do what they are trained to do and give them what they need then it would get accomplished, after cleaning up in Afghanistan go on to the next group of nut jobs, eventually they will realize we don't and wont take shit , and Allah isn't helping them they may just back off
    Amazing how libs now want to cut and run from Afghanistan like they did in Iraq

    One would think libs would learn form past mistakes. But then again if they did, they would stop being liberals and see the only way to win a war is to fight to win - and not fight to lose


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