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    Quote Originally Posted by n0spam4me View Post
    Given that the THREE steel framed buildings "collapsed"
    straight down, through the path of most resistance and at the speed
    observed on the videos?
    And all 3 explained in much detail in the tons of reports. You choose to believe an alternate theory.

    80,000 tons of cold steel, intact in that it had NOT suffered the impact of an aircraft, and yet the topmost bit of the building was said to have "collapsed" down onto the as yet undamaged part, resulting in the total destruction of said building.... what is going on here?
    It's all in the official reports.

    If all you have is "thats stupid" then you have no case at all!
    You're an idiot.

    What PROF do you have that 19 suicidal Arabs hijacked 4 airliners and crashed 3 of them into buildings?

    What?
    Suicide note, captured terrorists testimony, telephone calls from loved ones, cameras at airports and passenger list & 13 of the bodies identified. I know, I know, before you even say it - the government faked all of this.
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    Quote Originally Posted by n0spam4me View Post
    Given that the THREE steel framed buildings "collapsed"
    straight down, through the path of most resistance and at the speed
    observed on the videos?

    80,000 tons of cold steel, intact in that it had NOT suffered the impact of an aircraft, and yet the topmost bit of the building was said to have "collapsed" down onto the as yet undamaged part, resulting in the total destruction of said building.... what is going on here?

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    Dude don't be stupid. The fire caused several stories of the structure to weaken to the point that it couldn't hold the weight above. When the weakened stories collapsed, the dynamic load of the structure above collapsed the stories below, one after the other. Its called a progressive collapse and its completely predictable from a structural engineering perspective. The American Society of Civil Engineers, of which I am a member, published its findings on this long ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockmail View Post
    Dude don't be stupid. The fire caused several stories of the structure to weaken to the point that it couldn't hold the weight above. When the weakened stories collapsed, the dynamic load of the structure above collapsed the stories below, one after the other. Its called a progressive collapse and its completely predictable from a structural engineering perspective. The American Society of Civil Engineers, of which I am a member, published its findings on this long ago.
    Glock, realize going into this that no matter what you say, no matter what evidence you provide - NOTHING will satisfy these truthers. I like to fiddle with them and toss a few rigged questions their way so I can laugh at their retarded answers. But don't expect a serious discussion, unless you're into the fantasies these guys live for.
    “You know the world is going crazy when the best rapper is a white guy, the best golfer is a black guy, the tallest guy in the NBA is Chinese, the Swiss hold the America's Cup, France is accusing the U.S. of arrogance, Germany doesn't want to go to war, and the three most powerful men in America are named "Bush", "Dick", and "Colin." Need I say more?” - Chris Rock

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    Default Two books that shed a bit of light on the subject

    The death of common sense

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    Why nothing works ....


    Fascinating Capt .... Fascinating ....






    BTW: the emperor is still NAKED!

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    Quote Originally Posted by n0spam4me View Post
    The death of common sense

    and

    Why nothing works ....


    Fascinating Capt .... Fascinating ....






    BTW: the emperor is still NAKED!
    Very thoughtful comeback.

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    Excuse the language, but it actually matches my own sentiment.




    When fact and evidence cannot convince someone, sometimes it takes comedy to show someone just how stupid they really really seem to be.

    dmk
    Conservatism, I repeat is not an ideology. It does not breed fanatics....But if you want men who seek, reasonably and prudently, to reconcile the best in wisdom of our ancestors with the change which is essential to a vigorous civil social existence, then you will do well to turn to conservative principles-Russell Kirk-

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    Default RE: Penn & Teller

    Please note that these guys are ENTERTAINERS first and foremost.

    also they like keeping their jobs, There are stand-up comics who questioned the "lone gunman" story about the JFK assassination and they found it VERY difficult to get gigs! Penn & Teller are just doing what will keep them employed in the short run, in the LONG RUN, AMERICA looses!

    Do you really believe that the TOTAL DESTRUCTION of THREE steel framed buildings was the result of TWO aircraft crashes (oh yea and the jet fuel & office stuff fires that burned for what an hour, or two?)

    Give me a break! This is NOT just "hate Bush" stuff, Bush was only a VERY low level minion in this whole thing anyhow.

    The sleezoid bank "bailouts" (+ a lot of other evidence) Proves that the GOV, doesn't work for WE THE PEOPLE they work for GREED INC.

    AMERICA is in DEEP Do-Do! Get a clue people!

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    Default Did anybody watch the Nat.Geo. bit on 9/11 ?

    REALLY now, can any sentient being see this fiasco and not laugh?
    Wow man LOL, LOL, LOL!

    After Nat.Geo got purchased buy Fox, (whats up with that?)
    (why do we even have ANTI-TRUST laws on the books?)
    the obvious disregard for REAL science and the attempt to psychoanalyze the "TRUTHERS" as if there was a totally homogeneous group of people who KNOW the TRUTH, or alt least seriously question the OFFICIAL explanation.

    WHY is it that various entities are putting so much effort into "debunking" the TRUTH movement? Planet Earth ... we have a problem here.

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    Fox owns only 50% of the NatGeo channel. NBC and British Sky Broadcasting own the rest.
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    Default Bad 'nuff that they are involved at all.

    We have lost our 4th estate!
    its been sold to the highest bidder.

    What we have now is no better than the old USSR - PROVDA!

    its a sick sad world!

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