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    Quote Originally Posted by loosecannon View Post
    No that is not what I said, that is what YOU said.
    nope.... you said your non-god (rational thought) could help people avoid silly traps....thus your non-god is bigger than their irrational gods ....

    "I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is."

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Cp View Post
    Not at all - just making sure (like most arguements you post) - that you have no way of actually backing your claims...
    When it comes to God, we're all just speculating, aren't we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GW in Ohio View Post
    When it comes to God, we're all just speculating, aren't we?
    nope...tis not speculation for some

    "I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is."

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    Quote Originally Posted by manu1959 View Post
    nope.... you said your non-god (rational thought) could help people avoid silly traps....thus your non-god is bigger than their irrational gods ....
    NOPE i said that not playing the game of "my God is bigger than your God" could open the door to rational thought.

    YOU said what YOU said. I didn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manu1959 View Post
    nope...tis not speculation for some
    Let me guess, is it hallucination?

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    Quote Originally Posted by loosecannon View Post
    Let me guess, is it hallucination?
    nope....belivers don't speculate....same as non-belivers...they are both sure

    "I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is."

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    Quote Originally Posted by loosecannon View Post
    NOPE i said that not playing the game of "my God is bigger than your God" could open the door to rational thought.

    YOU said what YOU said. I didn't.
    as you just said again rational thought is the bigger god ...like i said you are playing the same game...

    "I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is."

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    Quote Originally Posted by GW in Ohio View Post
    When it comes to God, we're all just speculating, aren't we?
    Not at all. You see, God can reveal His will to those who seek it. When the Spirit speaks, there is no speculating. Thing is there are way too many people who simply declare you cant know, put no effort into it, and therefore never do know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loosecannon View Post
    Let me guess, is it hallucination?
    Thank you for emphasizing my point of how some refuse to learn to try to learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Cp View Post
    you ever notice..

    When it comes to the idea of "Atheism" that atheists are NEVER saught after in moments of tragedy? they ALWAYS seek out religous leaders / chaplains etc..

    I can't recall hearing about ANYTIME someone about to die on death row cried out to the "god of self".... or anyone in serious emotional trauma... or about to die in a plane wreck.. etc...

    I'd LOVE to hear from dp's self-professed "godless ones" why that is....
    I have never sought the help of a religous leader..

    and which athiests do you recall crying out to god when faced with death? and if by chance you can name some answer me this......What harm did it do?

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    If God exists I beseech Her to close this thread!
    Pork, good for you, bad for Muslims and Jews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by avatar4321 View Post
    Not at all. You see, God can reveal His will to those who seek it. When the Spirit speaks, there is no speculating. Thing is there are way too many people who simply declare you cant know, put no effort into it, and therefore never do know.
    And you don't see the pitfall in your argument that an effort must be made? How much effort does someone have to put forth before they can state "there is no god" without speculating?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missileman View Post
    And you don't see the pitfall in your argument that an effort must be made? How much effort does someone have to put forth before they can state "there is no god" without speculating?
    That is the fatal flaw with their position. They can't know that there is no God unless they themselves were God.

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    To all non-believers in God:

    The evidence we have seen of him in our lives trumps your opinion about whether or not he exists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by avatar4321 View Post
    That is the fatal flaw with their position. They can't know that there is no God unless they themselves were God.
    Fatal or not, it's the same flaw shared by those who claim they know there is a God. It all boils down to belief.

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