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    It doesn't say it's more importent it says it's an option and woman should not be looked down upon for choosing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalNation View Post
    Also the guys problem, shouldn't have married someone if he couldn't handle who they were. When a man lords over a woman who is not submissive it will destroy her spirit. Same difference.
    Honey - you have it SOO Ass-backwards...

    When a wife SUBMITS to the husband-ship of her man, it will set her FREE...it will make her BETTER

    (sigh) You POOR girl. Really!!
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    No it wont if her husbands sucks or his wishes are not her own. Some woman do not fit into a traditional mold and that would not work for them either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalNation View Post
    No it wont if her husbands sucks or his wishes are not her own. Some woman do not fit into a traditional mold and that would not work for them either.
    If her husband SUCKS? lmao...Dude - don't marry men who suck. Easy as pie.

    And get this - How her HUSBAND acts in HIS responsibilities has nothing to do with it. If the wife Submits her authority UNDER His - however crappy of a job he's doing (as long as he's not endangering himself, she, or the kids), then SHE is doing HER job. Get it?

    If a woman doesn't 'fit' into that mold, there's a GOOD chance she WANTS to be in that mold, or her parents failed her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalNation View Post
    because they did, not like it was planned. You may have sex but not want kids, sometimes it'll work, sometimes not.
    Not sure what you mean here - any clarification, love?
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    So she should be unhappy because you consider doing her job. Sorry not her job, it's nothing but a societal constraint. Which she can do is (A) pressure him to change or (B) file for divorce. It's not her "job" to take it anymore than it's a guys to take a girl he also can't deal with. That's called the modern world and is a pretty good model that gives both genders more freedom. If they want to go traditional sure that's there choice but everyone doesn't and it wouldn't work for everyone so pushing it as the only right or good way is flat out stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    Not sure what you mean here - any clarification, love?
    What clairification, they had kids whether they really wanted them at the time or not and they love their kids. They just would rather work then be on welfare and spend 24/7 with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalNation View Post
    because they did, not like it was planned. You may have sex but not want kids, sometimes it'll work, sometimes not.
    Maybe once, but more? Cop out argument. In any event, once the kids are there, planned or not, why would any parent with a shred of decency run away from their own children? She needs to know it's time to woman-up and deal.
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    It's not running away if the kids is taken care of. You can love someone without the need to be around them 24/7 even kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalNation View Post
    What clairification, they had kids whether they really wanted them at the time or not and they love their kids. They just would rather work then be on welfare and spend 24/7 with them.
    Then you missed my point. Calling "Away from the kids" the "Real World" betrays ignorance about what is IMPORTANT in life.
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    What is importent is subjective. What is importent in life to you may not be for everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalNation View Post
    It's not running away if the kids is taken care of. You can love someone without the need to be around them 24/7 even kids.
    totally disagree....i have coache youth sports for 30 years....the latch key kids areetotally differnt....

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalNation View Post
    It's not running away if the kids is taken care of. You can love someone without the need to be around them 24/7 even kids.
    If the mother has the OPTION to stay home, financially, leaving the kids with a daycare shows she loves MONEY or CAREER more than kids. That's the point. Now, to what degree? that's an individual thing. Said another way, I'd argue the kids CANNOT be "Taken Care Of" in the true-sense of the word, if both parents work. Sometimes, that's all a family can do. I recognize that. However, I doubt ANYONE would say it's 'ideal'.

    Again you dip into logical fallacy with your 24/7 comment. It's ludicrous to think anyone is around somebody ALL The time. People have to shit, shower, and sleep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalNation View Post
    What is importent is subjective. What is importent in life to you may not be for everyone.
    THAT is my point. Don't you see? People are doing THEMSELVES and their FAMILIES a dis-service by placing themselves (their career, their money, whatever) AHEAD of their family. People need to RE-PRIORITIZE to fall in line with what I believe. Mostly, cuz I'm RIGHT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalNation View Post
    It's not running away if the kids is taken care of. You can love someone without the need to be around them 24/7 even kids.
    Actually, you said they want to be away from them 24/7:

    I know a lot of woman who work to get away from their kids 24/7
    And it is running away of they are doing that.
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