The Evolution of Hispanic Identity

[Agnapostate]

When I criticized Christopher Columbus's legacy and the nature of the Spanish occupation of America, this underwent the usual rightist analysis of screeching about political correctness (is it not ironic that to be against "PC" is probably the most "PC" position out there?), and my commentary was depicted as anti-Anglo despite the fact that Columbus was an Italian of Genoa commanding a Hispanic occupation force. This conflation implies that there's some connection between Anglo and Hispanic identity because of common European origins. And yet, the incompatibility of aspects of Hispanic culture with Anglo culture and the "refusal to assimilate" on the part of modern Latin American immigrants of largely Native American descent is now cited as a reason for opposing "excessive" immigration.

What does this mean, exactly? Hispanic identity becomes divorced from Anglo identity once the Indians are successfully indoctrinated with it?

[chloe]

When I criticized Christopher Columbus's legacy and the nature of the Spanish occupation of America, this underwent the usual rightist analysis of screeching about political correctness (is it not ironic that to be against "PC" is probably the most "PC" position out there?), and my commentary was depicted as anti-Anglo despite the fact that Columbus was an Italian of Genoa commanding a Hispanic occupation force. This conflation implies that there's some connection between Anglo and Hispanic identity because of common European origins. And yet, the incompatibility of aspects of Hispanic culture with Anglo culture and the "refusal to assimilate" on the part of modern Latin American immigrants of largely Native American descent is now cited as a reason for opposing "excessive" immigration.

What does this mean, exactly? Hispanic identity becomes divorced from Anglo identity once the Indians are successfully indoctrinated with it?

I'm thinking Hogtrash will agree with you. He feels the same way.

[Gaffer]

What you refer to as excessive immigration is illegal immigration. There are yearly quotas to prevent massive influxes of immigrants. And its very important during times like these when there is a serious recession.

Do you just hate white people? or do you just hate history because you can't change it?

[cat slave]

Its always the "illegal" part that gets overlooked.

[Gaffer]

Its always the "illegal" part that gets overlooked.

Yep, they want to call them everything but what they are. Then bring up history to condemn all the white people in this country. Agna wants to extend his condemnation to white people in every country.

[Agnapostate]

Actually, while I'm not a proponent of what's called the "Black Legend" per se, I've always noted that the Hispanic invasion was a particularly vicious and brutal one and inflicted far higher casualties than the Anglo invasion. So no, there's no such conflation on my part.

At any rate, my question goes unanswered.

[HogTrash]

(is it not ironic that to be against "PC" is probably the most "PC" position out there?),

The most "PC" position out there is to hate white people and to make lame excuses for the rest, Mr PC.

[HogTrash]

(is it not ironic that to be against "PC" is probably the most "PC" position out there?),

The most "PC" position out there is to hate white people and to make lame excuses for the rest, Mr PC.

[Agnapostate]

Not surprising that my question again goes unanswered.

[chloe]

When I criticized Christopher Columbus's legacy and the nature of the Spanish occupation of America, this underwent the usual rightist analysis of screeching about political correctness (is it not ironic that to be against "PC" is probably the most "PC" position out there?), and my commentary was depicted as anti-Anglo despite the fact that Columbus was an Italian of Genoa commanding a Hispanic occupation force. This conflation implies that there's some connection between Anglo and Hispanic identity because of common European origins. And yet, the incompatibility of aspects of Hispanic culture with Anglo culture and the "refusal to assimilate" on the part of modern Latin American immigrants of largely Native American descent is now cited as a reason for opposing "excessive" immigration.

What does this mean, exactly? Hispanic identity becomes divorced from Anglo identity once the Indians are successfully indoctrinated with it?

I don't know much about hispanic history but I used live in new mexico and loved the culture. I used to have fun making tamales on xmas eve with my best friend and her grandma, we also used to eat tortillas as an afterschool snack, just put them right on the stovetop and melt butter on them YUM!

I had a major crush on a navajo indian, and he told me his version of thanksgiving was that white people poisoned the indians food and gave them alcohol to wreck them so they could steal the indians land, I thought he was hispanic and he got all offended and said he wasn't mexican he was navajo indian. So I guess there is a racial distinction. Whatever, he was goodlooking, thats all I know

[Trigg]

Not surprising that my question again goes unanswered.

Why don't you state CLEARLY what your question is.

[chloe]

Why don't you state CLEARLY what your question is.

[SassyLady]

When I criticized Christopher Columbus's legacy and the nature of the Spanish occupation of America, this underwent the usual rightist analysis of screeching about political correctness (is it not ironic that to be against "PC" is probably the most "PC" position out there?), and my commentary was depicted as anti-Anglo despite the fact that Columbus was an Italian of Genoa commanding a Hispanic occupation force. This conflation implies that there's some connection between Anglo and Hispanic identity because of common European origins. And yet, the incompatibility of aspects of Hispanic culture with Anglo culture and the "refusal to assimilate" on the part of modern Latin American immigrants of largely Native American descent is now cited as a reason for opposing "excessive" immigration.

What does this mean, exactly? Hispanic identity becomes divorced from Anglo identity once the Indians are successfully indoctrinated with it?

I'm with everyone else here - exactly what is your question? It seems that you made a statement/explanation and then asked a rhetorial question that needs no answer. Ask specifically and I'm sure that one of us Anglo-Americans will attempt to answer it.

[chloe]

Why don't you state CLEARLY what your question is.

what is the question? I thought he was just making a statement and wanted us to talk amongst ourselves....

[chloe]

I'm with everyone else here - exactly what is your question? It seems that you made a statement/explanation and then asked a rhetorial question that needs no answer. Ask specifically and I'm sure that one of us Anglo-Americans will attempt to answer it.

If anything he needs to dumb it down for me....