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    Default 90 Yr old Veteran Forced to take down Flag

    WWII vet fights homeowners group over Va. flagpole

    RICHMOND, Va. — One of the nation's oldest Medal of Honor winners was back in the fight Thursday, this time against a neighborhood association that wants him to take down a front-yard flagpole.

    Supporters, including a U.S. senator, have been falling in behind 90-year-old retired Army Col. Van T. Barfoot, a World War II veteran awarded the lofty Congressional honor for actions including standing up to three German tanks with a bazooka and stopping their advance.

    The Sussex Square homeowners' association says the flagpole violates the neighborhood's aesthetic guidelines and ordered him to remove it by 5 p.m. Friday or face a lawsuit. The group has said Barfoot can display the flag, as long as it's in a way that conforms with association rules, such as from a pole mounted on the front of the house.

    "This is not about the American flag. This is about a flagpole," the association said in a statement.

    Sen. Mark R. Warner, D-Va., is among those offering to help break the impasse, Warner spokesman Kevin Hall said. Warner and the war hero became acquainted at veterans' events when Warner was Virginia's governor from 2002-06. Others are backing Barfoot on the Internet, including with a Facebook page.

    Barfoot won the Medal of Honor for actions while his platoon was under German assault near Carano, Italy, in May 1944. The award citation says Barfoot, then a 2nd lieutenant, crept up alone on German machine gun nests, killing and capturing enemy troops in three of them, stopped their three-tank advance and helped two seriously wounded comrades back to safety.

    He also won the Purple Heart and other decorations, and served in Korea and Vietnam before retiring from the service in 1974. The Sitter & Barfoot Veterans Care Center, a state nursing home for military retirees in Richmond, bears his name.

    Barfoot's daughter, Margaret Nicholls, said her father has been moved to tears by the outpouring of support, and hopes the nine-member homeowners' board will use its discretion and let him keep the pole.

    "A house-mounted pole? That is not an option," Nicholls said. "The flagpole is definitely what he's fighting for."

    http://www.comcast.net/articles/news.../US.Flag.Flap/

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    I feel for him. but HOA's do have rules about this. they can be a major pain.

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    I absolutely cannot fathom why anyone wants to live in a community run by
    a gestapo.

    My sister in law and brother in law live in one of those prisons and they have
    to have everything okd by the board of prison guards! Id rather be dead than
    live somewhere like that, but whatever floats anyones boat....its just not for
    me.
    What are reparations? Making me pay
    for something I had nothing to do with compensates no one
    who suffered an injustice therefore I would be penalized for
    something I didnt do and someone else would receive a settlement
    for an injury they did not suffer.

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    aww I felt sorry for him, it made me think of grandpa, the guy is 90 yrs old, he doesn't understand the home owners thing.

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    It is an outrage that any HOA would take such a stance about a flagpole and go after such a highly decorated, elderly veteran. It is because of men like Barfoot that these people have the freedom to even establish a HOA in the first place.

    He is an old man who has served this country, in fact the world, faithfully and honorably. They need to leave him alone.

    I guarantee that these heathens would bend their association rules to build a gazebo or some other such nonsense if that suited their fancy. I've seen it done. They just need to get off their high horses and choose their battles to be only those that are truly in the best interest of the community.

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    He ought to take it down and then Paint the Flag on his Garage door, HOA are usually just like politics, all full of shit, seem the people most active or that run the show can do what they want but make the rules for the rest

    I lived in a area like that in SC, one of the rules was all animals must be on a leash, but the lady that ran it all let her dog run the neighborhood, I guess that is do as I say not as I do

    Poor dog had to pay the price cause she couldn't follow the rules

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    when I bought my home I made damned sure there was no HOA. I live right on the fringe of one

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    Quote Originally Posted by namvet View Post
    when I bought my home I made damned sure there was no HOA. I live right on the fringe of one
    Learned my lesson also, my neighbor hood has kind of one, but no one pays attention to it, they came to me a week after me moving in and told me I couldn't park the big truck there, I offered them the door and nothing else has been said
    lol

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    Years ago, when I was a landscaper and worked in some of those gated communities with HOA's, it was funny to me that people would spend thousands of dollars for a new landscaping job, then have to sweat bullets while the 'grounds' committee stomped around snorting and sniffing out the job I had just completed, trying to decide if this plant or that was a violation of their rules. Was the stepping stone on the pathway too wide or too narrow? Did the stacked rock retaining wall stack up? Ridiculous!!!!!

    I think living is a secure community is fine, but some of the rules make no sense at all - this issue over a flagpole being chief among them. Seems to me that people on the committee have too much time on their hands and too few real thoughts in their heads - and it makes me angry that they would pester an old man - any old man, but especially one who has contributed so much to this country. Their time would be better spent trying to figure out how many pedophiles and meth labs have slipped through the cracks and invaded their precious community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff View Post
    Learned my lesson also, my neighbor hood has kind of one, but no one pays attention to it, they came to me a week after me moving in and told me I couldn't park the big truck there, I offered them the door and nothing else has been said
    lol
    and most, if not all, charge HOA fee's to boot. if you sell the house and you owe em any back dues they'll slap a lein on you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by namvet View Post
    and most, if not all, charge HOA fee's to boot. if you sell the house and you owe em any back dues they'll slap a lein on you.
    All this so someone can tell you how to live, LOL

    I understand ya dont want to live next to a junk yard, but again I don't need a HOA to fix that for me either

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    My HOA thankfully isnt that invasive. All they do is collect fees to pay a landscaping screw to mow the common grounds and keep them clean looking. I haven't heard of anyone being told to do something or remove something from their property.

    What it is though is people that can't mind their own business and people on a power trip. My sister in law lives in our community and had a problem with a neighbor that she couldn't even see from her house. The guy had a huge boat in his driveway. The HOA states not to have this stuff but I could tell it was there temporarily. She wanted the HOA to tell him to get rid of it. I told her to just leave it be because thats all the HOA needs is an excuse to exercise some power. People get to angry about things that don't matter. More people need to mind their own business.
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    What all this means is that there are not 4 other people with him on this in the HOA. All it would take is a majority of 5 to change the rules. The Association should put up a flag pole in their common area then. Its either a bunch of uppity snobs or Liberals that live in his community.

    I staged a revolt and took over the Homeowners Association within 7 months of moving into my house. I now control the 4/5ths of the board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by namvet View Post
    when I bought my home I made damned sure there was no HOA. I live right on the fringe of one

    ~~~~~shudder~~~~~!
    What are reparations? Making me pay
    for something I had nothing to do with compensates no one
    who suffered an injustice therefore I would be penalized for
    something I didnt do and someone else would receive a settlement
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    Quote Originally Posted by crin63 View Post
    What all this means is that there are not 4 other people with him on this in the HOA. All it would take is a majority of 5 to change the rules. The Association should put up a flag pole in their common area then. Its either a bunch of uppity snobs or Liberals that live in his community.

    I staged a revolt and took over the Homeowners Association within 7 months of moving into my house. I now control the 4/5ths of the board.

    LOVE IT!!!!!!
    What are reparations? Making me pay
    for something I had nothing to do with compensates no one
    who suffered an injustice therefore I would be penalized for
    something I didnt do and someone else would receive a settlement
    for an injury they did not suffer.

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