Iraq war is 'lost': US Democrat leader

[glockmail]

no really, they would go to the casinos and he would "date" the chorus girls....

I don't see Dingy Harry as a real lady's man.

[lily]

rehtorical huh

No, I'm serious. I won't even say 4 years.....just 2.

[glockmail]

Can someone please explain to me what in the past 2 years have we milirarily accomplished in Iraq? When are all those soldiers that we have been training going to stand up?

Says a lot about the arabs, which has been my personal experience with them. But then, we're not allowed to generalize about them, are we?

[manu1959]

No, I'm serious. I won't even say 4 years.....just 2.

are you looking for a military answer or a social answer....in just iraq or in afghanistan as well?

[Pale Rider]

No, I'm serious. I won't even say 4 years.....just 2.

Have you not been listening to the news? We haven't done a damn thing according to the drive by media. You'll have to dig to find the good things that are happening. Like Iraq having free elections, and spending billions on new infrastructure, and new schools, and having the first money in the bank for their gross national product which is oil since before Sadam, and I'm only scratching the surface of good things happening there. So the terrorists are still killing and mamming innocent people. That's all you hear about, because that's all the drive by media reports on, with the INTENTION, of making you believe there's nothing good happening. It's politically agenda driven, because the MSM is abundantly liberal.

[glockmail]

Have you not been listening to the news? We haven't done a damn thing according to the drive by media. You'll have to dig to find the good things that are happening. Like Iraq having free elections, and spending billions on new infrastructure, and new schools, and having the first money in the bank for their gross national product which is oil since before Sadam, and I'm only scratching the surface of good things happening there. So the terrorists are still killing and mamming innocent people. That's all you hear about, because that's all the drive by media reports on, with the INTENTION, of making you believe there's nothing good happening. It's politically agenda driven, because the MSM is abundantly liberal.

Yes, all good things accomplished by our guys. But her question was when were the Iraqis going to stand up? Its a legit point.

[lily]

Says a lot about the arabs, which has been my personal experience with them. But then, we're not allowed to generalize about them, are we?

....if that's true, I want a refund. We've been training them now for going on 5 years.......and we were promised that they were going to stand up.

[Pale Rider]

....if that's true, I want a refund. We've been training them now for going on 5 years.......and we were promised that they were going to stand up.

Was my answer not what you were asking for. What are you talking about exactly?

[lily]

are you looking for a military answer or a social answer....in just iraq or in afghanistan as well?

Military in Iraq. What have we accomplished in the last 5 years.....and Manu, I'm trusting you I don't want a C&P from FR.

[manu1959]

....if that's true, I want a refund. We've been training them now for going on 5 years.......and we were promised that they were going to stand up.

they have fought several skirmishes and i belive four or so provinces in the south are under their control...the entire north is under kurd control....the issue is downtown and the wild wild west....

[lily]

Have you not been listening to the news? We haven't done a damn thing according to the drive by media. You'll have to dig to find the good things that are happening. Like Iraq having free elections, and spending billions on new infrastructure, and new schools, and having the first money in the bank for their gross national product which is oil since before Sadam, and I'm only scratching the surface of good things happening there. So the terrorists are still killing and mamming innocent people. That's all you hear about, because that's all the drive by media reports on, with the INTENTION, of making you believe there's nothing good happening. It's politically agenda driven, because the MSM is abundantly liberal.

Yeah......I know I've heard it before.....it's all the media's fault. The questions were Can someone please explain to me what in the past 2 years have we milirarily accomplished in Iraq? When are all those soldiers that we have been training going to stand up?

[Pale Rider]

Military in Iraq. What have we accomplished in the last 5 years.....and Manu, I'm trusting you I don't want a C&P from FR.

A C&P from FR? Wha?

[Pale Rider]

Yeah......I know I've heard it before.....it's all the media's fault. The questions were Can someone please explain to me what in the past 2 years have we milirarily accomplished in Iraq? When are all those soldiers that we have been training going to stand up?

Stand up and do what? All they can do is follow orders.

[glockmail]

....if that's true, I want a refund. We've been training them now for going on 5 years.......and we were promised that they were going to stand up.

I don't recall being promised that. How long did it take the japs and krauts? And they didn't have Iran fueling the fire, and the inherent religious differences.

[lily]

they have fought several skirmishes and i belive four or so provinces in the south are under their control...the entire north is under kurd control....the issue is downtown and the wild wild west....

Well, then wouldn't it be a good idea to move these well trained men into where the battle is that our men seem to be fighting for them?