Utah may sue over national health care reform

[chloe]

SALT LAKE CITY -- Utah's attorney general is preparing to joins a lawsuit that challenges the Senate's massive health care reform bill. Utah is one of 10 conservative states prepared to challenge the health care bill. The reasoning behind the suit goes way beyond the cost of the legislation. The attorneys general, including Utah's Mark Shurtleff, say there are constitutional questions. Even more, they say the so-called Nebraska compromise part of the deal smells of corruption.

There weren't enough votes to get the bill to the floor of the Senate, so the president cut a deal with Ben Nelson, the senator from Nebraska," says Utah Chief Deputy Attorney General John Swallow.
The deal with Nelson was made in exchange for a "yes" vote on the bill. The estimated cost: $100 million.


It's just one aspect of the Senate's health care reform bill that has motivated 10 states to start researching legal action.
The states are researching a constitutional challenge of whether requiring every American to buy something -- in this case health insurance -- is legal. They also have constitutional questions about mandating state legislatures to enact portions of the bill.

"That's unprecedented. State legislatures can't be mandated by the federal government to do anything," Swallow says. For health care advocates, those specific questions are not an issue. The federal government already requires auto insurance, says Judi Hilman, with the Utah Health Policy Project.

"The federal government already has all kinds of regulation going on around Medicare and Medicaid, and we don't blink an eye," Hilman says. "So why should this be any different?"

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[bullypulpit]

SALT LAKE CITY -- Utah's attorney general is preparing to joins a lawsuit that challenges the Senate's massive health care reform bill. Utah is one of 10 conservative states prepared to challenge the health care bill. The reasoning behind the suit goes way beyond the cost of the legislation. The attorneys general, including Utah's Mark Shurtleff, say there are constitutional questions. Even more, they say the so-called Nebraska compromise part of the deal smells of corruption.

There weren't enough votes to get the bill to the floor of the Senate, so the president cut a deal with Ben Nelson, the senator from Nebraska," says Utah Chief Deputy Attorney General John Swallow.
The deal with Nelson was made in exchange for a "yes" vote on the bill. The estimated cost: $100 million.


It's just one aspect of the Senate's health care reform bill that has motivated 10 states to start researching legal action.
The states are researching a constitutional challenge of whether requiring every American to buy something -- in this case health insurance -- is legal. They also have constitutional questions about mandating state legislatures to enact portions of the bill.

"That's unprecedented. State legislatures can't be mandated by the federal government to do anything," Swallow says. For health care advocates, those specific questions are not an issue. The federal government already requires auto insurance, says Judi Hilman, with the Utah Health Policy Project.

"The federal government already has all kinds of regulation going on around Medicare and Medicaid, and we don't blink an eye," Hilman says. "So why should this be any different?"

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See <a href=http://www.debatepolicy.com/showpost.php?p=398995&postcount=5>THIS</a> post. And golly, it would seem that busing students to integrate schools mandated specific actions by state legislatures.

[avatar4321]

I cant comprehend how you are even trying to compare the massive overreach of government and mandating massive debt for the states is somehow equivalent to busing. Shows exactly how credible you are.

[cat slave]

Well, now, I do see a thread between the two.

We all know what is going on now unless we are drunk on Kool Aide. I also
remember how and why busing came about.

Busing was another government ordered debacle that not only cost untold
amounts of money, destroyed communities and made parent participation in their
kids school nearly impossible and thats just for starters.

Kids were bussed out of their neighborhoods where kids used to go through
first grade through l2th with kids they knew from neighborhoods where people
knew them and there was a consistency to it all. Parents could work then
attend school functions without driving across town to unknown areas where
their kids had been hauled for up to an hour and a half just to satisfy some
social engineered brain fart. And that hour and a half was one way.

And what did it accomplish? No kid ever got a better education from sitting
beside someone from another race. But then, when all are dumbed down
the government has accomplished making us weaker and more divided and
less accomplished.

IMO, its same problem. Way too much government interference in everything.

Just my thoughts on it.

[Binky]

Gotta agree with you on this one Cat....Turns out the schools that the white kids got bused to were in poorer areas and of lesser quality, while the blacks got bussed to white schools in better areas and much better in quality.... Hmmmm........go figure....

[cat slave]

I do believe we mostly all know what it was really about.