Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 16 to 23 of 23
  1. #16
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Arizona
    Posts
    47,716
    Thanks (Given)
    23960
    Thanks (Received)
    17486
    Likes (Given)
    9714
    Likes (Received)
    6168
    Piss Off (Given)
    85
    Piss Off (Received)
    10
    Mentioned
    204 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    21475525

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    I have a thrid world server here which is why I ended up with a double post. Can a mod remove one of them please.
    Anything for you!


    "The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill


  2. #17
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Virginia, U.S.A.
    Posts
    14,117
    Thanks (Given)
    4828
    Thanks (Received)
    4671
    Likes (Given)
    2557
    Likes (Received)
    1592
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    3
    Mentioned
    126 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    14075393

    Default

    from C-span Q and A

    LT. COL. KAREN KWIATKOWSKI, U.S. AIR FORCE (RET.)
    tells her story of how she observed, from her position in the Pentagon, the vice-president and a set of his advisor's "creating" intelligence to convince the D.O.D., the American people and the world to go to war with Iraq. In the face of real credible evidence that clearly showed Saddam was no real threat or problem at all.

    http://www.q-and-a.org/Transcript/?ProgramID=1069
    It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. James Madison
    Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God.
    1 Peter 2:16

  3. #18
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Posts
    1,287
    Thanks (Given)
    0
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Given)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    7763

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by AFbombloader View Post
    Terroristic nuclear attack? Never thought I would see WWII referred to as a terrorist action.
    It seems an inconsistent double standard otherwise.

    Quote Originally Posted by AFbombloader View Post
    Iran doesn't have to follow our demands, in fact they haven't been following ours or anybody's for years. But if they do attack us, we have every right right to reciprocate in force.
    Even if the current Iranian regime did attack, I wouldn't see it as much more than an attempt at reciprocation. It was a previous CIA administration that backed the 1953 coup against the democratically elected prime minister and consolidation of power by a monarchist tyrant and the previous and current U.S. administrations that are attempting to destabilize the current regime and have admitted as much.
    The history of human thought recalls the swinging of a pendulum which takes centuries to swing. After a long period of slumber comes a moment of awakening. -Peter Kropotkin

  4. #19
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Indiana
    Posts
    831
    Thanks (Given)
    0
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Given)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    10408

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    It seems an inconsistent double standard otherwise.

    Even if the current Iranian regime did attack, I wouldn't see it as much more than an attempt at reciprocation. It was a previous CIA administration that backed the 1953 coup against the democratically elected prime minister and consolidation of power by a monarchist tyrant and the previous and current U.S. administrations that are attempting to destabilize the current regime and have admitted as much.
    The dropping of Fat Man and Little Boy do not meet the criteria for terrorist attack. They were not done to incite fear or to gain anything by fear. They were done to ultimately end a war and saves thousands, if not millions, of lives in Japan and in America.

    Since when do the sins of the father apply to the son? What was done by previous US administrations, to the previous administrations in Iran is not why they are the way they are. At one time we were allies, in a loose sense of the word. And that was after 1953.

    AF
    "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first."

    Mark Twain

  5. #20
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    9,002
    Thanks (Given)
    36
    Thanks (Received)
    209
    Likes (Given)
    20
    Likes (Received)
    101
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    0
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    1187319

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    Or the most powerful nation-state in the UN that exercises an imperialistic monopoly through the veto power of the Security Council and over the Board of Governors of the IAEA. That too.
    no, the Soviet Union is gone, son.....
    ...full immersion.....

  6. #21
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    DFW, Texas
    Posts
    3,179
    Thanks (Given)
    0
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Given)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    10996

    Arrow

    Sorry bout that,

    1. In three days will see this *Iranian Surprise*!
    2. Then Obama will have to decide which major Islamic City he will have to blow off the map.
    3. I vote for Mecca.
    4. Heres a little ol link:http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1


    "Supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said on Monday that Iran is set to deliver a "punch" that will stun world powers during this week's 31st anniversary of the Islamic revolution.
    "The Iranian nation, with its unity and God's grace, will punch the arrogance (Western powers) on the 22nd of Bahman (February 11) in a way that will leave them stunned," Khamenei, who is also Iran's commander-in-chief, told a gathering of air force personnel. "



    Regards,
    SirJamesofTexas
    Last edited by chesswarsnow; 02-08-2010 at 08:29 PM.
    "At Times We Cry, At Time We Fly" ~CWN
    "See You Down The Road Man" ~ CWN

  7. #22
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    DFW, Texas
    Posts
    3,179
    Thanks (Given)
    0
    Thanks (Received)
    0
    Likes (Given)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    0
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    10996

    Arrow

    Sorry bout that,


    [QUOTE=revelarts;408343]from C-span Q and A

    LT. COL. KAREN KWIATKOWSKI, U.S. AIR FORCE (RET.)
    tells her story of how she observed, from her position in the Pentagon, the vice-president and a set of his advisor's "creating" intelligence to convince the D.O.D., the American people and the world to go to war with Iraq. In the face of real credible evidence that clearly showed Saddam was no real threat or problem at all.

    http://www.q-and-a.org/Transcript/?ProgramID=1069[/QUOTE



    1. Errrrrr....... And what thread were you trying to post too?
    2. This is the irainian thread.
    3. Why do you have you're head buried in the sand?
    4. Oh I know you like surprises.
    5. Well you dig up old bs about how iraq was innocent of any wrong doing.
    6. And I will publish the real news as I see it.
    7. I'm for a first strike, just nuke Tehran.
    8. Screw them.


    Regards,
    SirJamesofTexas
    "At Times We Cry, At Time We Fly" ~CWN
    "See You Down The Road Man" ~ CWN

  8. #23
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    The Deep,Deep South
    Posts
    4,006
    Thanks (Given)
    2
    Thanks (Received)
    4
    Likes (Given)
    0
    Likes (Received)
    0
    Piss Off (Given)
    0
    Piss Off (Received)
    0
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Rep Power
    44441

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    I've noticed that you've expressed opposition to the policies of the current administration. Very well. Why would you live in a country that you obviously hate? Isn't there another that would have beliefs more like yours that you could be happier living in? One that you could have some pride in?
    The current administration is not the United States......... your attempt at a point failed. I love the United States, I believe in this country's moral decency and am sorry we have wasted so much time, lives, money and resources on people that don't want or deserve our help. Fuck the assholes around the world, let them fight for themselves.
    No matter where I've traveled or how great the trip was, it's always wonderful to return to my country, The United States of America......... me

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Debate Policy - Political Forums