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    Quote Originally Posted by HogTrash View Post
    According to the Bible:

    God is raw intellect that creates, increases, manipulates, deminishes and destroys energy at will.
    What does it even mean, to be "raw intellect"? If by that you mean disembodied, then you are making a very dubious claim; wherever we discover intelligence, we find it to be embodied.

    Furthermore, creation ex nihilo is logically impossible. The ancient Greek philosophers recognized this; and it is a truth enshrined in the First Law of Thermodynamics.

    Quote Originally Posted by HogTrash View Post
    Matter, on the other hand, may only exist in our minds at God's whim...We see and feel what God wishes us to.
    This is a typical way of imagining monotheist deity - the characteristic Christian way of trying to combine the Apeiron of ancient Greek philosophy, with the fedualistic Jehovah of the ancient Hebrews. It was a very evocative amalgam of concepts of the divine, and it has certainly had massive historical influence. But it is a hopeless muddle. Case in point the above remark. This is the sort of way that many educated believers want to imagine their god, i.e. as an entity who is literally limitless; but trying to combine the Apeiron with the personal God of the Hebrews only results in monotheism yielding to pantheism. If nothing stands over and against God, everything is reduced to God, ultimately. Matter, indeed, becomes an illousion. We're all in the Matrix, now.

    Quote Originally Posted by HogTrash View Post
    Time does not exist to God and is an illusion created as a learning tool for the benefit of God's living creations.
    It amazes me, how believers can sputter out this kind of gibberish. Tell me, did God "create time" before or after he predestined untold numbers of men and women (with free will) to hell?

    Quote Originally Posted by HogTrash View Post
    Time is only one of God's many illusions...When you reach a higher level you may be able to discuss these things with God personally.
    I'd love to hear how a discussion can take place "outside time."

    Quote Originally Posted by HogTrash View Post
    Someday you may come to realize that everything you cherished and coveted were nothing but meaningless illusions to prepare you for what's next.
    Christianity, or New Age? What does it matter? It's all vain superstition.



    Thomas Jefferson:

    “The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus by the Supreme Being in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter.” [in a letter to John Adams (4/11/1823)]
    Last edited by Pericles; 02-27-2010 at 02:49 PM.

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