Indoctrination in action

[Noir]

Makes you sick.

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[Mr. P]

Child abuse in the name of GOD! Illegal BTW.

It will be interesting to see if anyone here defends this abusive practice.

[chesswarsnow]

Sorry bout that,


1. This is a holy roller faith, and they have a right to teach their children the way they want too.
2. What I find strange is a person who makes children a pawn for his heathernistic selfish life, who is just a child himself.
3. And Mr. P. I will defend them their rights to teach their children well, or however they feel is important to them.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

[Mr. P]

Sorry bout that,


1. This is a holy roller faith, and they have a right to teach their children the way they want too.
2. What I find strange is a person who makes children a pawn for his heathernistic selfish life, who is just a child himself.
3. And Mr. P. I will defend them their rights to teach their children well, or however they feel is important to them.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

You call that teaching, huh? That's pretty sick, man.

We had a so called Minister type here in Atlanta that whipped kids at the Sunday service in front of the congregation. That's teaching? He spent a few yrs in jail for it and all the parents who allowed this lost their kids for a good while.

Society does not look at nor accept "religious extremism" as "teaching" when it comes to children.

Sorry bout that.

[Abbey Marie]

Yes, it's a little out there, and not the way I would go with my child. But I find it more interesting that you, Noir, do not post, for example, about the horrors done in the name of Islam, to children and women, and men, too. The beatings, the stripping of human rights, the turning into suicide bombers. Jesus camp is the worst religious indoctrination you can find? Sure it is.

So, here's the thing, Noir: I thought that you were trying to find your way in the world, and were seriously questioning God and religion along the way. But now it seems that the only thing that you really want to do is try to taint Christianity.
Good to know. Your credibility is on it's last breath.

[Noir]

Yes, it's a little out there, and not the way I would go with my child. But I find it more interesting that you, Noir, do not post, for example, about the horrors done in the name of Islam, to children and women, and men, too. The beatings, the stripping of human rights, the turning into suicide bombers. Jesus camp is the worst religious indoctrination you can find? Sure it is.

So, here's the thing, Noir: I thought that you were trying to find your way in the world, and were seriously questioning God and religion along the way. But now it seems that the only thing that you really want to do is try to taint Christianity.
Good to know. Your credibility is on it's last breath.

Whats the point in me posting about the non-sense that is Islam on this site? As far as i am aware there are no Muslims here.

This topic is not itself focussed on Christianity, but on religion itself, and how it indoctrinates those that can not chose. Obviously this is an extreme example, but the same happens on smaller scales everywhere, whether its sending a kid to a faith school or making them go to church classes ect. Indoctrination is taking place

I also will be taking no lectures on 'credibility' from a Pescetarian.

[HogTrash]

Sorry bout that,


1. This is a holy roller faith, and they have a right to teach their children the way they want too.
2. What I find strange is a person who makes children a pawn for his heathernistic selfish life, who is just a child himself.
3. And Mr. P. I will defend them their rights to teach their children well, or however they feel is important to them.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

I have to agree with Chess...People have a right to raise their children to worship as they themselves do.

The rest of us have no right to force them to do otherwise as long as there is no criminal activity or abuse.

I personally don't agree with this form of religion but I do respect the rights of others and expect it in return.

[Mr. P]

I have to agree with Chess...People have a right to raise their children to worship as they themselves do.

The rest of us have no right to force them to do otherwise as long as there is no criminal activity or abuse.

I personally don't agree with this form of religion but I do respect the rights of others and expect it in return.

Folks have a right to train their dogs too.

Do you approve of beating a dog to train it?

There's a point the line must be drawn between "rights" and "wrongs"..where is it for you?

[glockmail]

The video is too long to view. Boil your accusation down Noir.

[SassyLady]

Makes you sick.

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Noir, I went to one of these camps when I was a kid....at the time it seemed like fun and got me away from the family for a week. However, it was this type of extremism that turned me off religion eventually. I am not religious, but I am also not anti-religion. I am anti-extremism ...... of any sort.

Your question is whether it is indoctrination ......... of course it is.

Indoctrination is the process of inculcating ideas, attitudes, cognitive strategies

Can you tell me anything a parent teaches their children that isn't some type of indoctrination? For example: Teaching them to say "please" and "thank you" when they want/receive something is indoctrination into a set of values. Making them brush their teeth and take a bath is a form of indoctrination regarding health. Some things are better learned through dogmatic teachings.

And children are not just being indoctrinated by their parents. Watching television is a form of indoctrination.....playing video games ....participating in sports ....listening to music.....teaching children how to care for animals .... teaching language and math.....and the list goes on and on. We cannot raise our children in a void of indoctrination if they want to survive in today's world.

Thankfully, in America, we still have the ability to question the ideas being taught to us, whether it is faith, science, history, et. al. The beauty of being a human being is that at some point in time we reach the age to make our own choices and hopefully some of the indoctrination sticks and some of it diminishes.

Noir, I hope that you know that being anti-religious doesn't mean you have to be an atheist.

[HogTrash]

Noir, I went to one of these camps when I was a kid....at the time it seemed like fun and got me away from the family for a week. However, it was this type of extremism that turned me off religion eventually. I am not religious, but I am also not anti-religion. I am anti-extremism ...... of any sort.

Your question is whether it is indoctrination ......... of course it is.

Indoctrination is the process of inculcating ideas, attitudes, cognitive strategies

Can you tell me anything a parent teaches their children that isn't some type of indoctrination? For example: Teaching them to say "please" and "thank you" when they want/receive something is indoctrination into a set of values. Making them brush their teeth and take a bath is a form of indoctrination regarding health. Some things are better learned through dogmatic teachings.

And children are not just being indoctrinated by their parents. Watching television is a form of indoctrination.....playing video games ....participating in sports ....listening to music.....teaching children how to care for animals .... teaching language and math.....and the list goes on and on. We cannot raise our children in a void of indoctrination if they want to survive in today's world.

Thankfully, in America, we still have the ability to question the ideas being taught to us, whether it is faith, science, history, et. al. The beauty of being a human being is that at some point in time we reach the age to make our own choices and hopefully some of the indoctrination sticks and some of it diminishes.

Noir, I hope that you know that being anti-religious doesn't mean you have to be an atheist.

There are those who are simply skeptical about religion and the existance of God and these nonbelievers don't give it much thought.

Then there are the atheist who don't believe and hate the fact that anyone else does and ridicules and tries to convert believers to atheism.

The latter are the ones who have been marxist indoctrinated and are programmed to spread their anti-religious beliefs wherever they will be heard.

Marxism is an ideological plague that spreads and infects those who are weak of mind, especially among the young and the poor of society.

[chloe]

Noir only hates christians and not really religion. Just the Christian religion.

[Noir]

Noir only hates christians and not really religion. Just the Christian religion.

Inwhich case you think wrong.

[Mr. P]

There are those who are simply skeptical about religion and the existance of God and these nonbelievers don't give it much thought.

Then there are the atheist who don't believe and hate the fact that anyone else does and ridicules and tries to convert believers to atheism.

The latter are the ones who have been marxist indoctrinated and are programmed to spread their anti-religious beliefs wherever they will be heard.

Marxism is an ideological plague that spreads and infects those who are weak of mind, especially among the young and the poor of society.

Odd I've never seen anyone claiming to be an atheist approach perfect strangers in a bowling ally (as the lil girl in the video did) handing out atheist tracks and claiming there is no GOD.

I think you may have only observed the reverse, HT.

[chloe]

Odd I've never seen anyone claiming to be an atheist approach perfect strangers in a bowling ally (as the lil girl in the video did) handing out atheist tracks and claiming there is no GOD.

I think you may have only observed the reverse, HT.

To be honest with you, I won't be surprized to see that coming soon. I bet 20 years ago nobody thought there would be a richard dawkins atheist childrens camp either.