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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    I could have sworn we've had this argument within the last month....
    Given the range of topics discussed in this thread alone thats more than likely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    So...who then created god and the others?
    Re-read post 267.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockmail View Post
    Re-read post 267.
    So you think he game into being out of nothing? And evolved to become a god?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    So you think he game into being out of nothing? And evolved to become a god?
    By you're reasoning in post 248, this is an absolute certainty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockmail View Post
    By you're reasoning in post 248, this is an absolute certainty.
    Indeedy it is, and that is a possibility, infact if you read up on Dawkins you will find that the only way he thinks a god could exist would be by the very process you described.

    This raises and interesting point, can we become gods? Are we currently on the evolutionary path to become gods?

    Most interestingly of all, you were the one that said that my stance is illogical, and yet you are now agreeing with me on, the only difference being that you think this has happened before, spawning a God, when i do not. How is your stance any more logical than mine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    Indeedy it is, and that is a possibility, infact if you read up on Dawkins you will find that the only way he thinks a god could exist would be by the very process you described.

    This raises and interesting point, can we become gods? Are we currently on the evolutionary path to become gods?

    Most interestingly of all, you were the one that said that my stance is illogical, and yet you are now agreeing with me on, the only difference being that you think this has happened before, spawning a God, when i do not. How is your stance any more logical than mine?
    Your stance requires the simultaneous occurrence of many rare events involving inanimate objects, while mine requires just one, along with a gradual learning process that occurs is an sentient being. Which one is a more reasonable and likely occurrence?

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    By the way I've never heard of Dawkins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockmail View Post
    Your stance requires the simultaneous occurrence of many rare events involving inanimate objects, while mine requires just one, along with a gradual learning process that occurs is an sentient being. Which one is a more reasonable and likely occurrence?
    Utter tosh, Mine requires the coming into existence of matter, one event, and from that everything else follows.

    Yours requires atleast one (possibly many) beings coming into existence, outside of the universe as it hasn't been made yet, and by some process it is able to learn, and then brings into existence all matter.

    I really am amazed, if you could describe more how this 'baby god', if you will, learned? I mean, the very idea is just confusing to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glockmail View Post
    By the way I've never heard of Dawkins.
    Well i did suggest a book of his to you, but you were too open minded to look it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glockmail View Post
    By the way I've never heard of Dawkins.
    Dawkins is a clown who believes and teaches outright and open mockery of Christianity.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F Buckley, Jr

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoogyMan View Post
    Dawkins is a clown who believes and teaches outright and open mockery of Christianity.
    He mocks all religions.

    As i have said before, i do not agree with his methods, he's too blunt IMO, but he raises good arguments, juts in too argumentative a style.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    He mocks all religions.

    As i have said before, i do not agree with his methods, he's too blunt IMO, but he raises good arguments, juts in too argumentative a style.
    He may mock all religions but he relishes his hatred for Christianity.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F Buckley, Jr

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    but he raises good arguments
    he asks good questions....I've never seen him raise an argument that couldn't be stopped dead with more than two questions....
    ...full immersion.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    he asks good questions....I've never seen him raise an argument that couldn't be stopped dead with more than two questions....
    Really? I've seen him in hour long debates, and he has never been 'stopped dead' if you have videos showing otherwise please post.
    And i also saw him stop a Mulsim dead in his tracks in 5 seconds
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    Utter tosh, Mine requires the coming into existence of matter, one event, and from that everything else follows.

    Yours requires atleast one (possibly many) beings coming into existence, outside of the universe as it hasn't been made yet, and by some process it is able to learn, and then brings into existence all matter.

    I really am amazed, if you could describe more how this 'baby god', if you will, learned? I mean, the very idea is just confusing to me.
    So in your theory, an entire universe just suddenly happened. In other words, the big bang theory. Where did all the matter come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    Well i did suggest a book of his to you, but you were too open minded to look it up.
    Apparently I didn't need to, since I developed his theory on my own.

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