I need an honest answer...

[HogTrash]

Are these people mean, hateful, white radical racists who are motivated by skin color and racial differences?
or
Are they average everyday Americans who are simply fed up with many years of government refusal to secure our borders and enforce our immigration laws which has resulted in so many problems?

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AYrvLWZ9m0&feature=related[/YOUTUBE]

[LiberalNation]

first one, behind a background of southpark's they took eur jobs.

[Noir]

Are these people mean, hateful, white radical racists who are motivated by skin color and racial differences?
or
Are they average everyday Americans who are simply fed up with many years of government refusal to secure our borders and enforce our immigration laws which has resulted in so many problems?

I'd go for the former.
There are plently of americans on this site who are 'fed up with many years of government refusal to secure our borders and enforce our immigration laws which has resulted in so many problems' but i wouldn't think they'd be out on the streets shouting "Go home wetbacks"
What's your thoughts hoggy?

[HogTrash]

first one, behind a background of southpark's they took eur jobs.

I haven't a clue as to what you are talking about?

Couldn't you just answer the question or is this your way of avoiding the issue?

[HogTrash]

I'd go for the former.
There are plently of americans on this site who are 'fed up with many years of government refusal to secure our borders and enforce our immigration laws which has resulted in so many problems' but i wouldn't think they'd be out on the streets shouting "Go home wetbacks"
What's your thoughts hoggy?

So you believe people don't have the right to protest when they believe government is avoiding it's responsibilties?

Or maybe you believe it is only neccessary when it concerns an issue the left believes is important?

[crin63]

This is one of those tricky situations caused by to many years of leftists being in control of most communication.

If they aren't out there being loud, obnoxious and rude they won't get any coverage. OTH they will only get coverage to be painted as racists and dismissed out of hand because of the language they use. Terminology is important to get the right message across.

I also understand that they are angry but I still think the terminology used (Wetback) is going to be less productive than other words.

Boot the illegals, secure our borders and quit making deals with Mexico and Canada to ship our jobs there.

[HogTrash]

This is one of those tricky situations caused by to many years of leftists being in control of most communication.

If they aren't out there being loud, obnoxious and rude they won't get any coverage. OTH they will only get coverage to be painted as racists and dismissed out of hand because of the language they use. Terminology is important to get the right message across.

I also understand that they are angry but I still think the terminology used (Wetback) is going to be less productive than other words.

Boot the illegals, secure our borders and quit making deals with Mexico and Canada to ship our jobs there.

Fear and anger bring out the worst in even the good people.

The words and actions of these protesters is the result of years of pent-up frustration of a dysfunctional government.

People can take only so much before they snap...This is how revolutions are sparked.

I predict alot of snapping on alot of issues in the next three years...It's about time!

[crin63]

Fear and anger bring out the worst in even the good people.

The words and actions of these protesters is the result of years of pent-up frustration of a dysfunctional government.

People can take only so much before they snap...This is how revolutions are sparked.

I predict alot of snapping on alot of issues in the next three years...It's about time!

I agree, I just think that to actually be productive in their argument they have to come off as less fringe, less racist and more in control.

[HogTrash]

I agree, I just think that to actually be productive in their argument they have to come off as less fringe, less racist and more in control.

You're missing the point...They wouldn't be there if they hadn't lost control...These people are not like your normal liberal protesters who demonstrate at the drop of a hat.

These are conservatives who work and care for their families and without the "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore" attitude, they wouldn't even be there.
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dWsxMD057w[/YOUTUBE]

[LiberalNation]

[LiberalNation]

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[PostmodernProphet]

Are these people mean, hateful, white radical racists who are motivated by skin color and racial differences?
or
Are they average everyday Americans who are simply fed up with many years of government refusal to secure our borders and enforce our immigration laws which has resulted in so many problems?

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AYrvLWZ9m0&feature=related[/YOUTUBE]

I would say mean hateful racists......if they were fed up with the government they would be yelling at their congressmen instead of "wetbacks"........

....I got a kick out of the guy shouting "rule of law"......he ought to have been shouting "rule of loud shouting"..........

[DragonStryk72]

So you believe people don't have the right to protest when they believe government is avoiding it's responsibilties?

Or maybe you believe it is only neccessary when it concerns an issue the left believes is important?

that's not what you asked, Hog. If you haven't got the spine to hear the answer, don't ask the question.

It is racist, period. Plenty of people manage to protest illegal immigration without getting racist about it, so yeah, they, specifically are being racist. They have a right to protest, yes, but they have a right to be called racists for acting like racists.

[HogTrash]

that's not what you asked, Hog. If you haven't got the spine to hear the answer, don't ask the question.

It is racist, period. Plenty of people manage to protest illegal immigration without getting racist about it, so yeah, they, specifically are being racist. They have a right to protest, yes, but they have a right to be called racists for acting like racists.

I was simply asking a follow question regarding race, after all it is a racial issue and the protesters are white.

They would be called racist simply because the people they are protesting about fall under the protection of political correctness, regardless of how friendly they protested.

This is a fact, and unless you have been living under a rock since 1970, you know that.

Lets face it, people are going to get angry and say fuck political correctness, especially when only one group is expected to comply to the rules of PC.

Untill PC applies to everyone equally, I believe that whites should refuse to comply to it's strict speech restrictions as well...What say you?

I actually don't know if they are racist or not because like I said, I believe there is a possibility that it's simply a frustration and anger issue.
but
If they are racist or recently became racist because of our situation, I completely understand why and cannot judge them harshly for it.

The fault lies with the government for allowing things to get so far out of hand.

[LiberalNation]

If they are racist or recently became racist because of our situation, I completely understand why and cannot judge them harshly for it.

no suprise, one racist to another.