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    Default Irrefutable Proof of Evolution

    As this was brought up in another thread i thought i would post this up for anyone who believes evolution is a hoax or that there is not proof of it,

    Two 10 minute videos that prove evolution via Neanderthal DNA, Chromosomal fusion, Retroviral DNA and Summation.

    Given this is one of the most important theories (of the the most important) in biology if you believe it does not exist and are not willing to spend 20 minutes of your life dispelling your own ignorance then you are choosing to be blind to science, but i wouldn't think any of you guys would do that.

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    A 2 minute run though some intermediate fossils

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    But clearly there is no evolution, rather a creator decided he would put some bones in modern day whales where rear legs would be, just to make it look like they use to have rear legs, right?
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    I pay no attention to videos....they can't argue back.....if you want to raise an argument, raise it yourself....
    ...full immersion.....

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    Watch the viedos, the set out the argument, then we can debate it, if you really want i will sit and type the videos out word for word, but it would be easier if you watched the videos and then had an argument about them with me.
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    This is EASY!

    "Irrefutable proof of Intelligent Design"

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4z0IVivslc[/youtube]
    “… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.

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    Even better, and more to the point:

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yzgBj8deKE&feature=related[/youtube]
    “… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    This is EASY!

    "Irrefutable proof of Intelligent Design"

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4z0IVivslc[/youtube]
    ...can you please point to a single part of the which refutes evolution? i watched the video with a pen and paper ready to make notes, and the only thing i have written down is "lol"...

    Infact, about 7 minutes in, the guy explains how natural selection has caused the birds to evolve to have long beaks, with those with the shorter beaks dying out.

    So please, what in that video (give a quote or a time to watch between) is irrefutable proof of ID?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    This is EASY!

    "Irrefutable proof of Intelligent Design"

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4z0IVivslc[/youtube]
    You maybe should have actually watched this video. It makes a very compelling explanation of how evolution works. BTW...WTF is a Philosopher of Biology?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    Watch the viedos, the set out the argument, then we can debate it, if you really want i will sit and type the videos out word for word, but it would be easier if you watched the videos and then had an argument about them with me.
    well it is your debate.....the alternative is that I have to sit and type out the argument you want to have for you and then type out my response to it.....shall I just type the whole debate for you so you can check in later and see who won?.......
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    http://www.biblegateway.com/
    here, tell me what parts you don't like and I will argue it with you....
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    [QUOTE=Noir;415874]As this was brought up in another thread i thought i would post this up for anyone who believes evolution is a hoax or that there is not proof of it,

    Two 10 minute videos that prove evolution via Neanderthal DNA, Chromosomal fusion, Retroviral DNA and Summation.

    Given this is one of the most important theories (of the the most important) in biology if you believe it does not exist and are not willing to spend 20 minutes of your life dispelling your own ignorance then you are choosing to be blind to science, but i wouldn't think any of you guys would do that.

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    Great video's Noir, Thank You for posting them, that was a very corncise presentation.

    Although recent dna sequencing, (the human genome was sequenced in 1999), has greatly helped us understand life on Earth, this theory does not disprove the theory of intelligent design.

    I actually think it makes it more likely.

    Anyone who goes out on a dark night and marvels at the obvious order of the universe can't help butt ponder how such a well ordered structure from the tiniest particals to life itself cums from random chaos.

    Respectfully, JR

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldMercsRule View Post
    Great video's Noir, Thank You for posting them, that was a very corncise presentation.

    Although recent dna sequencing, (the human genome was sequenced in 1999), has greatly helped us understand life on Earth, this theory does not disprove the theory of intelligent design.

    I actually think it makes it more likely.

    Anyone who goes out on a dark night and marvels at the obvious order of the universe can't help butt ponder how such a well ordered structure from the tiniest particals to life itself cums from random chaos.

    Respectfully, JR
    You are bringing to the floor the issue of complexity, i.e. we are to complex not to have been created, i have talked about this in other threads, i will put a link to that here.

    Better than that, here was a short video i made for another website to start a discussion on the complexity issue, the examples raised point to the kind of thing you think, and the question raised is one i would like to hear your answer to -
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    You are bringing to the floor the issue of complexity, i.e. we are to complex not to have been created, i have talked about this in other threads, i will put a link to that here.

    Better than that, here was a short video i made for another website to start a discussion on the complexity issue, the examples raised point to the kind of thing you think, and the question raised is one i would like to hear your answer to -
    I can't hear the video.

    Since it is only two minutes why not just state your posiition?

    Complexity is part of the intelligent design issue, as chaos from inception begats more chaos.

    Order does cum from somewhere. JR

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldMercsRule View Post
    I can't hear the video.

    Since it is only two minutes why not just state your posiition?

    Complexity is part of the intelligent design issue, as chaos from inception begats more chaos.

    Order does cum from somewhere. JR
    Gah, sorry bout the sound,

    I found the thread http://debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?t=25219
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noir View Post
    a short video
    do we have the facepalm icon?.....
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