Irrefutable Proof of Evolution

[Noir]

As this was brought up in another thread i thought i would post this up for anyone who believes evolution is a hoax or that there is not proof of it,

Two 10 minute videos that prove evolution via Neanderthal DNA, Chromosomal fusion, Retroviral DNA and Summation.

Given this is one of the most important theories (of the the most important) in biology if you believe it does not exist and are not willing to spend 20 minutes of your life dispelling your own ignorance then you are choosing to be blind to science, but i wouldn't think any of you guys would do that.

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[Noir]

A 2 minute run though some intermediate fossils

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But clearly there is no evolution, rather a creator decided he would put some bones in modern day whales where rear legs would be, just to make it look like they use to have rear legs, right?

[PostmodernProphet]

I pay no attention to videos....they can't argue back.....if you want to raise an argument, raise it yourself....

[Noir]

Watch the viedos, the set out the argument, then we can debate it, if you really want i will sit and type the videos out word for word, but it would be easier if you watched the videos and then had an argument about them with me.

[darin]

This is EASY!

"Irrefutable proof of Intelligent Design"

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4z0IVivslc[/youtube]

[darin]

Even better, and more to the point:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yzgBj8deKE&feature=related[/youtube]

[Noir]

This is EASY!

"Irrefutable proof of Intelligent Design"

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4z0IVivslc[/youtube]

...can you please point to a single part of the which refutes evolution? i watched the video with a pen and paper ready to make notes, and the only thing i have written down is "lol"...

Infact, about 7 minutes in, the guy explains how natural selection has caused the birds to evolve to have long beaks, with those with the shorter beaks dying out.

So please, what in that video (give a quote or a time to watch between) is irrefutable proof of ID?

[Noir]

Even better, and more to the point:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yzgBj8deKE&feature=related[/youtube]

Right, most of this one was spent talking about freedom (and i had to laugh out loud when Bill mocked the concept of the separation of the church and state, obviously he doesn't consider than important)

The only real point made for ID in there was that of irreducible complexity, i.e. the cell having hundres of thousands of parts that work perfectly. This is an arguement that has been shot down more times that enough. The whole idea of Darwinism is that things start simple, and grow over time to become more and more complex, thats why the earliest living things we can find fossils of are cell organisms, then as you move through time you find more and more complex creatures.

There are other issues in the video i could go into, like 'why not teach both sides' ect, but i want to keep this thread on evolution.

BTW, i don't know what you know of Ben Stein, however, his movie 'Expelled' is a farce, did you know that the kicked PZ Mires out of the first screening of the movie, even though he appeared in it and was thanked in the credits?

And just as a final point, i have watched and addressed what little there was in your videos, care to watch and address mine?

[Missileman]

This is EASY!

"Irrefutable proof of Intelligent Design"

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4z0IVivslc[/youtube]

You maybe should have actually watched this video. It makes a very compelling explanation of how evolution works. BTW...WTF is a Philosopher of Biology?

[Noir]

You maybe should have actually watched this video. It makes a very compelling explanation of how evolution works. BTW...WTF is a Philosopher of Biology?

I thought the same

[PostmodernProphet]

Watch the viedos, the set out the argument, then we can debate it, if you really want i will sit and type the videos out word for word, but it would be easier if you watched the videos and then had an argument about them with me.

well it is your debate.....the alternative is that I have to sit and type out the argument you want to have for you and then type out my response to it.....shall I just type the whole debate for you so you can check in later and see who won?.......

[PostmodernProphet]

http://www.biblegateway.com/
here, tell me what parts you don't like and I will argue it with you....

[BoogyMan]

So, let me get this straight, if we don't agree with your arrogant hogwash we are ignorant?

Trolly moley what a load of garbage.

[PostmodernProphet]

a theory of evolution I agree with...

[PostmodernProphet]

a theory of evolution I don't believe in...