Irrefutable Proof of Evolution

[OldMercsRule]

Like I've pointed out before, vestigial structures don't have to be functionless. They can be used in other ways or simply diminished/not as important. If you or Murky would actually read some of the info I've posted, maybe you'd know that.



No, not at all. Mutations range from beneficial to harmful. The organisms with good or neutral mutations survive or survive better and the ones with bad mutations die or decrease in number from failing to reproduce, or at least not reproduce as much. Mutations sound bad but really they are just changes that can be good bad or neutral.



Indogenous retroviral insertions are germline dna insertions from retroviruses. For the same insertions to appear in the same exact places in the dna of different species without them having a common ancestor is impossible. This short video explains it in a way that's easy to understand.



A short article on it: http://hubpages.com/hub/How-Endogeno...Common-Descent

Constructing primate phylogenies from ancient retrovirus sequences
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...5/?tool=pubmed

I'm not a Geneticist, butt I do know that someone with a superior understanding of such a cornplex subject can simplify the corncept and make a plausible theory sound very cornpelling.

This is a very solid argument supporting an aspect of yer yer religion, (common ancestry), and the counter argument is not nearly as cornpelling as the lincs you provide. Although the lincs below do provide a counter argument.

I still maintain that evolution is not irrefutably proven as yer religion holds, butt ya did score one here IMHO.

http://creation.com/large-scale-func...s-retroviruses

http://creation.com/junk-dna-evoluti...-or-gods-tools

[PostmodernProphet]

For the same insertions to appear in the same exact places in the dna of different species without them having a common ancestor is impossible.

so in your opinion, if a million monkeys bang on a typewriter long enough they can only produce ONE copy of Shakespeare?.........my explanation is simpler, it only requires one Shakespeare......

[pete311]

so in your opinion, if a million monkeys bang on a typewriter long enough they can only produce ONE copy of Shakespeare?.........my explanation is simpler, it only requires one Shakespeare......

I think using the infinite monkey theorem is a mistake. The probability is so low that it is very near zero. So even for the life time of the universe science can make the statement that LD has made. Also the theorem doesn't hold here because it's purely mathematical and does not account for the laws of biology.

[PostmodernProphet]

I think using the infinite monkey theorem is a mistake. The probability is so low that it is very near zero. So even for the life time of the universe science can make the statement that LD has made. Also the theorem doesn't hold here because it's purely mathematical and does not account for the laws of biology.

lol, it's been so long I don't remember what the argument was, and your response is so vague, I can't tell which side of it you are arguing for......I do recall you posted in this thread and embarrassed yourself about creating "life" in the laboratory, and haven't been back to eat dirt yet......

[pete311]

I do recall you posted in this thread and embarrassed yourself about creating "life" in the laboratory, and haven't been back to eat dirt yet......

haha gimmie a break, i'm in rwanda! internet is hard to find, can you remind me what page that was?

[PostmodernProphet]

haha gimmie a break, i'm in rwanda! internet is hard to find, can you remind me what page that was?

????....it was the last post you made......

[Sweetchuck]

The only thing better than religious wackos are the atheist wackos.

I never understood the need for these two ends of the spectrum to want to jam their beliefs down everyone's throat. As far as I'm concerned, they can drop all of these insecure pinheads off on a fucking island along with crates of metal baseball bats.

[PostmodernProphet]

The only thing better than religious wackos are the atheist wackos.

I never understood the need for these two ends of the spectrum to want to jam their beliefs down everyone's throat. As far as I'm concerned, they can drop all of these insecure pinheads off on a fucking island along with crates of metal baseball bats.

what a coincidence.....there was a guy who said exactly the same thing on the other thread.....funny thing was, it didn't contribute anything to the debate there either.....

[Sweetchuck]

what a coincidence.....there was a guy who said exactly the same thing on the other thread.....funny thing was, it didn't contribute anything to the debate there either.....

Maybe, but it was very cathartic.

[PostmodernProphet]

well Pete....I'm glad I didn't waste a lot of time in research to answer your latest question......because it seems once again you have drifted away without answering me......

[pete311]

well Pete....I'm glad I didn't waste a lot of time in research to answer your latest question......because it seems once again you have drifted away without answering me......

i'm in the bush!!! i don't even know what post you are speaking of

[PostmodernProphet]

i'm in the bush!!! i don't even know what post you are speaking of

perhaps the "it's the last post you made" was a little vague for you.....would you like me to be more specific?.......

[pete311]

lol, you are as ignorant of biology as the person who wrote the article.....notice this....

they didn't create life, they simply made a transplant into an already living organism.....

a synthetic genome mind you, where the cells successfully replicated. It's only a matter of time before we create a new genome and custom cells. This is not a minor achievement!

[Gaffer]

a synthetic genome mind you, where the cells successfully replicated. It's only a matter of time before we create a new genome and custom cells. This is not a minor achievement!

Actually, taking something and making it into something else, which is what synthesis is about, is not creating anything, it's just restructuring what's already there.

[PostmodernProphet]

a synthetic genome mind you, where the cells successfully replicated. It's only a matter of time before we create a new genome and custom cells. This is not a minor achievement!

but it was NOT what you claimed it was when you posted this..

Scientists create a living organism

in truth, they weren't even close to that......it's like taking a lego car and changing it slightly by moving a few blocks, then claiming you invented the automobile.....