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    Quote Originally Posted by Hagbard Celine View Post
    Actually, they did stop getting warrants. So, you're wrong. Again.

    (shrugs/exhales slowly/pities dmp/lets out a silent fart)
    Policy may have been changed. What's the problem, turbo?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    Not really. It's just the way the warrants were achieved. Policy changed. That's not a lie. That's a mis-speak at worst...
    They had entirely stopped obtaining warrants at all and didn't begin again until early this year when they reorganized FISA and got ONE judge to sign off on a wholesale warrant approval process.

    Mis speak? You are kidding right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by loosecannon View Post
    They had entirely stopped obtaining warrants at all and didn't begin again until early this year when they reorganized FISA and got ONE judge to sign off on a wholesale warrant approval process.

    Mis speak? You are kidding right?
    Nope. I'll research it and let you know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Cp View Post
    Of his Faith - pure and simple.. how do I know? Because if there wasn't an "easy hate target" in the form of the Iraq War, they'd still find something else to hate him for which is very ironic. Outside of the War, we have a President who has given us the following:

    1. The lowest unempolyment in decades
    2. Private Home ownership at an all time high
    3. No attacks on our soil since 9/11
    4. A job growth rate that dwarf's the Clinton era
    5. Lower taxes - and not just for the "wealthy" - my wife and I have appreciated the tax breaks we've recieved over the past 7 years.
    Pardon me while I respond to your thesis......

    Bullshit

    Yours is one of the stupidest propositions I've heard in a long time.

    I have no objection to his faith, dude. I don't care if Jesus is his best friend, or his favorite philosopher, or if he has Jesus over for lunch on Saturdays.

    What I need from a president is good judgment, and that is where Mr. Bush is a complete disaster.

    I could live with the fact that he doesn't give a shit about the environment. But I cannot....will not ever....forgive his decision to invade Iraq, against all common sense, against the advice of his generals, and based as it was on deception. The Iraq war has cost American lives, and will probably cost us $1 trillion before it's over. It has brought the condemnation of the international community down on us and set our foreign policy back 50 years.

    Moreover, this stupid, ill-conceived war has served as a recruiting poster and a propaganda boon for radical Muslim groups and set off a civil war in Iraq.

    That's what I have against George Bush. I could care less about his religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little-Acorn View Post
    Democrat hysterics were circulating impeachment petitions against Bush after the 2000 election, before he had even taken office.

    The same trend continues today.

    (yawn)
    That is because he wasn't elected. He was selected in a 5-4 decision which vilated the constitutional premise that elections are remanded to the states.

    The US SC "over ruled" the FL SC decision to allow the recount to continue.

    Clear violation of the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loosecannon View Post
    That is because he wasn't elected. He was selected in a 5-4 decision which vilated the constitutional premise that elections are remanded to the states.

    The US SC "over ruled" the FL SC decision to allow the recount to continue.

    Clear violation of the law.

    How many recounts did you want? Gore lost every one to that point. In fact it was Gore who started the process that ended up being brought to the SC, Gore was simply put.....a poor fucking loser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loosecannon View Post
    That is because he wasn't elected. He was selected in a 5-4 decision which vilated the constitutional premise that elections are remanded to the states.

    The US SC "over ruled" the FL SC decision to allow the recount to continue.

    Clear violation of the law.
    You mean since they decided had won from recounts. I suppose it would of been completely lawful if they had declared Gore the winner, even though the votes never added up to that. You liberals don't seem to ever come to terms that Bush had more votes than Gore did in FL, no matter how many times you recounted it. Keep crying about it losers...
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    Cracks me up that people think the Constitution is a suicide pact. Cracks me up that people think the government was listening in on their calls to Dominoes when they got a large sausage and onion.

    Don't fuck with known terrorists or have ties to terrorists and you have zero to worry about.

    BTW Roosevelt surveiled all German-Americans and interned all Japanese during WWII, that is the worst abuse of the constitution ever in American history although I agree with his motives.....but if you guys want to be technical...........................

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    Quote Originally Posted by theHawk View Post
    You mean since they decided had won from recounts. I suppose it would of been completely lawful if they had declared Gore the winner, even though the votes never added up to that. You liberals don't seem to ever come to terms that Bush had more votes than Gore did in FL, no matter how many times you recounted it. Keep crying about it losers...


    Its never their fault, they think their mesage didn't get out. Uhhh wrong, their message got out in 2000 and 2004 and was rejected, thats why its a joke when they say that 2006 congressional vote was for Demo leadership rather than Repub leadership, it was a protest vote pure and simple and there was nowhere else to go except to socialist Demos, it was a protest vote built on lies but a protest vote nonetheless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loosecannon View Post
    That is because he wasn't elected. He was selected in a 5-4 decision which vilated the constitutional premise that elections are remanded to the states.

    The US SC "over ruled" the FL SC decision to allow the recount to continue.

    Clear violation of the law.
    I rest my case. The kooky members of this political version of the "Flat Earth Society" continue to screech with blinders firmly in place. They are the "trend" I referred to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theHawk View Post
    You mean since they decided had won from recounts. I suppose it would of been completely lawful if they had declared Gore the winner, even though the votes never added up to that. You liberals don't seem to ever come to terms that Bush had more votes than Gore did in FL, no matter how many times you recounted it. Keep crying about it losers...
    Sorry Hawk, but Gore actually won FL. The recounts were stopped short to prevent the state law from being enforced.

    Gore would have won by a wide margin if the recounts had been concluded.

    Recounts were conducted after the election that proved that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OCA View Post
    How many recounts did you want? Gore lost every one to that point. In fact it was Gore who started the process that ended up being brought to the SC, Gore was simply put.....a poor fucking loser.

    Wrong on both counts. The SC case was named Bush v. Gore which indicates that Bush appealed to the SC for a ruling.

    Bush lost the election in FL. Deal with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loosecannon View Post
    Wrong on both counts. The SC case was named Bush v. Gore which indicates that Bush appealed to the SC for a ruling.

    Bush lost the election in FL. Deal with it.
    Provide proof of a Gore victory or shut the fuck up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    I don't hate Bush at all. I think he makes poor choices and surrounds himself with those who give him poor advice. I also believe he has delusions of grandeur that cloud his decision making process.
    Yeah most people without hate dont joke around about murdering someone they dont hate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loosecannon View Post
    Surely you jest?
    Interest rates were reduced to almost nothing to prevent an economic collapse. We are now seeing skyrocketing foreclosures erasing those gains.
    If interest rates are at almost nothing why would you see skyrocketing foreclosures? Seriously if you can get away with buying a place with little or no interest, then you have to be freaking stupid to default and foreclose. That has little to do with the President but irresponsible people.

    We have a strong economy and low unemployment. If people make poor financial decisions with such great opportunity can you hold anyone other than the person making the decisions responsible?

    Of course, thats all assuming your projections are accurate. Which of course there is little evidence of.

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