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    Well I heard Snows' explanation anyway--Bush sees' it as respecting the rule of law. I'd laugh if there weren't 2 guys whose lives are screwed for shooting an illegal in the ass and pretending they didn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    Well I heard Snows' explanation anyway--Bush sees' it as respecting the rule of law. I'd laugh if there weren't 2 guys whose lives are screwed for shooting an illegal in the ass and pretending they didn't.
    Respecting the rule of law? He entered our country illegally and was smuggling dope. What about THOSE laws?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Respecting the rule of law? He entered our country illegally and was smuggling dope. What about THOSE laws?
    And the feds search this guy down to testify against the border guards ?

    If there isn't more than meets the eye here, we're goners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    And the feds search this guy down to testify against the border guards ?

    If there isn't more than meets the eye here, we're goners.
    We villify ourselves. Is it any wonder the rest of the world piles on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    We villify ourselves. Is it any wonder the rest of the world piles on?
    The rest of the world doesn't even know what a majority of America is like. They pile on perception.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    The rest of the world doesn't even know what a majority of America is like. They pile on perception.
    Sure they do. But something is seriously wrong here when our border guards can't even defend our border against an illegal smuggling dope without getting screwed.

    Or we put Nat'l Guardsmen on the border as a show of force but don't let them do anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    Sure they do. But something is seriously wrong here when our border guards can't even defend our border against an illegal smuggling dope without getting screwed.

    Or we put Nat'l Guardsmen on the border as a show of force but don't let them do anything.
    VERY seriously wrong---Bush is acting too cozy with Mexico. WHY?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    VERY seriously wrong---Bush is acting too cozy with Mexico. WHY?
    C'mon, Dillo. You live 80 miles from me. You know as well as I do Bush has kissed LULAC's ass from Day One. It's how he got the Mexican vote for Governor.

    And, IMO, THAT is the problem here. Neither party wants to be the one to go on record as the party that "hates Mexicans," and regardless the truth, that's what the accusation will be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    VERY seriously wrong---Bush is acting too cozy with Mexico. WHY?
    Oil or Tacos or cheap labor? Hummmm I'll think about it and get back to ya.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. P View Post
    Oil or Tacos or cheap labor? Hummmm I'll think about it and get back to ya.
    Cheap labor costs... which then drive down wages for the middle class making all his corporatist buddies happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. P View Post
    Oil or Tacos or cheap labor? Hummmm I'll think about it and get back to ya.
    What's sad is that we have to even wonder why our goverment (et al) is content to let our south door open. Convince me that we're not being screwed by more than what we can see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jillian View Post
    Cheap labor costs... which then drive down wages for the middle class making all his corporatist buddies happy.
    LOL...No. We all know it's NOT legal to hire an illegal. More to it than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jillian View Post
    Cheap labor costs... which then drive down wages for the middle class making all his corporatist buddies happy.
    And there are no liberals who own corporations ? I certainly don't see the border problem anywhere on the Congress agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    And there are no liberals who own corporations ? I certainly don't see the border problem anywhere on the Congress agenda.
    As I said, neither party wants to be labelled the "bad guy" alienating the Hispanic vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunny View Post
    As I said, neither party wants to be labelled the "bad guy" alienating the Hispanic vote.
    How come none of them want to be the good guy who saves America ?

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