To those calling for a civil war, this Marine says military will destroy you

[LiberalNation]

same thing, we will fire on civilians if they rebel.

[DragonStryk72]

same thing, we will fire on civilians if they rebel.

Actually, no. That is your personal interpretation, but that's not the point of his writing.

[namvet]

same thing, we will fire on civilians if they rebel.

yes we will

[BoogyMan]

same thing, we will fire on civilians if they rebel.

Ah, so now that you align yourself with the socilist/Marxist set, you want to silence rebellion by violence? I was right, your side of the aisle is determined to CAUSE a civil war.

[Trigg]

Would our government go to war against it's own citizens today if states voted to leave the union????

IMHO if a state holds a vote and the majority of the citizens want to form their own country I would be against forcing them to stay.

Thoughts???

[Gaffer]

Would our government go to war against it's own citizens today if states voted to leave the union????

IMHO if a state holds a vote and the majority of the citizens want to form their own country I would be against forcing them to stay.

Thoughts???

I'm all for that. If my state doesn't do that I would be looking to move to the new country.

At some point in the not too distant future that is what's going to happen if things aren't changed quickly in washington. The dark lord will be like Lincoln and divide the country. Except in the end he will lose. He doesn't have the good of the nation at heart.

[SassyLady]

same thing, we will fire on civilians if they rebel.

Here's what one of theposters had to say about Libbs posting this same article on the National Guard forum.

Note to moderators: This thread should be deleted.

1) The news article is not "News." Is is the opinion of an over-confident Marine.

2) It fosters discord

3) It in not in unison with the mission of the forum.

4) The responses are not going to be civil

Note to RandyB: Please don't post things like this, post real news pertaining to the National Guard, or Army.

In fact, just after I read this the thread was deleted.

[LiberalNation]

locked last time I checked. Military dudes don't like discord in the ranks, that board is better than most tho. If you notice a mod was a main contributer to that debate.

[HogTrash]

told ya. They follow orders for their paycheck and wont be losing it for some radicals.

http://christopher-calbat.newsvine.c...p=0#discussion

I'm afraid you and the misguided young Marine are both mistaken...It is not "Civil War" that is the issue, but "Revolution" that people are discussing.

The Marine is likely an Obama supporter, of liberal leanings and/or possibly a minority who believes his primary duty is to protect Obama and the US government...He could not be more wrong!

The military requires it's personel to swear an oath to defend and uphold the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic and to obey any and all lawful orders by all superiors.

Many of the lessor intelligent military personel will be confused about which directive takes priority...Protecting the Constitution takes priority over following the orders of people whose policies violate it.

In the first place, the military is forbidden to be used as a police force against US citizens by the Posse Comitatus Act and any law designed to circumvent this is null and void.

And second place, revolution would only become necessary if and when US citizens decided the government was guilty of not upholding the Constitution and subversion.

Determining what is "unconstitutional" might sometimes be a grey area that's best decided in the courts but on many issues it is as simple as black and white.

For example, if your right to speak freely or own a gun has been violated or suspended, you don't have to be a Harvard Law scholar to hand down a guilty verdict against the government.

Any serviceman or police officer who is ordered to fire on US civilians that are simply defending their constitutional rights and way of life, should arrest or kill if necessary, whoever gave them the order.

In fact it is the sworn duty of all military and police personel to join with those civilians in their struggle to protect their Constitution, regardless of who their advisary may be.

The military does not serve the government, but are protectors of US citizens and defenders of their constitutional rights and if ordered to kill their fellow Americans, I imagine there will be much conflict within their ranks.

[Mr. P]

I'm afraid you and the misguided young Marine are both mistaken...It is not "Civil War" that is the issue, but "Revolution" that people are discussing.

The Marine is likely an Obama supporter, of liberal leanings and/or possibly a minority who believes his primary duty is to protect Obama and the US government...He could not be more wrong!

The military requires it's personel to swear an oath to defend and uphold the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic and to obey any and all lawful orders by all superiors.

Many of the lessor intelligent military personel will be confused about which directive takes priority...Protecting the Constitution takes priority over following the orders of people whose policies violate it.

In the first place, the military is forbidden to be used as a police force against US citizens by the Posse Comitatus Act and any law designed to circumvent this is null and void.

And second place, revolution would only become necessary if and when US citizens decided the government was guilty of not upholding the Constitution and subversion.

Determining what is "unconstitutional" might sometimes be a grey area that's best decided in the courts but on many issues it is as simple as black and white.

For example, if your right to speak freely or own a gun has been violated or suspended, you don't have to be a Harvard Law scholar to hand down a guilty verdict against the government.

Any serviceman or police officer who is ordered to fire on US civilians that are simply defending their constitutional rights and way of life, should arrest or kill if necessary, whoever gave them the order.

In fact it is the sworn duty of all military and police personel to join with those civilians in their struggle to protect their Constitution, regardless of who their advisary may be.

The military does not serve the government, but are protectors of US citizens and defenders of their constitutional rights and if ordered to kill their fellow Americans, I imagine there will be much conflict within their ranks.

Bambam knows all that which is why (IMO) he wants this...