The Gipper on Arms

[diuretic]

Incorrect. They are usually one in the same.

Because you say so I suppose? Are you sure you're not suffering some sort of arrested development? I mean it's common for children to be extremely egotistical, the world revolves around them and everything they assert just "is" because they asserted it. But adults understand that isn't the case.
However adult sociopaths have child-like egoism problems as well, they are extremely egocentric. You probably need to get over your egoism.

Now to your assertion - if they're "usually" one and the same then it means that sometimes they're not. So when are they not one and the same and when are they one and the same?

I'll wait for some examples.

[glockmail]

Because you say so I suppose? Are you sure you're not suffering some sort of arrested development? I mean it's common for children to be extremely egotistical, the world revolves around them and everything they assert just "is" because they asserted it. But adults understand that isn't the case.
However adult sociopaths have child-like egoism problems as well, they are extremely egocentric. You probably need to get over your egoism.

Now to your assertion - if they're "usually" one and the same then it means that sometimes they're not. So when are they not one and the same and when are they one and the same?

I'll wait for some examples.

My opinion is based on discussions with liberals such as yourself, on this board, others, and face to face, over many years of political discourse. They never admit they are wrong, even with faced with overwhelming facts, and are unwilling to listen seriously to your argument. That is close mindedness.

You are the one who asserts that liberal = open minded. Prove it.

[diuretic]

My opinion is based on discussions with liberals such as yourself, on this board, others, and face to face, over many years of political discourse. They never admit they are wrong, even with faced with overwhelming facts, and are unwilling to listen seriously to your argument. That is close mindedness.

You are the one who asserts that liberal = open minded. Prove it.

I agree with your definition of close-mindedness. I agree that someone who can never admit they're wrong is close-minded, yes, I'm politically liberal and I agree with your contention.

QED - you now have your proof

[Kathianne]

I agree with your definition of close-mindedness. I agree that someone who can never admit they're wrong is close-minded, yes, I'm politically liberal and I agree with your contention.

QED - you now have your proof

Can't rep you twice in a row.

[diuretic]

Can't rep you twice in a row.

As a much wittier poster than me once said, "it's the thought that counts." I'll go along with that. Thank you for the note

[typomaniac]

I agree with your definition of close-mindedness. I agree that someone who can never admit they're wrong is close-minded, yes, I'm politically liberal and I agree with your contention.

QED - you now have your proof

I got tired of waiting for glockmail to reply to this one, so I'll just post the reply he would have made:

[glockmail]

I agree with your definition of close-mindedness. I agree that someone who can never admit they're wrong is close-minded, yes, I'm politically liberal and I agree with your contention.

QED - you now have your proof

That is now the degree of evidence required for a proof?

[glockmail]

I got tired of waiting for glockmail to reply to this one, so I'll just post the reply he would have made:

You too need to get a life I see. Whouda thunk?

[diuretic]

That is now the degree of evidence required for a proof?

Sorry no second prizes - you're done.

[glockmail]

Sorry no second prizes - you're done.

I'll just keep my gold medal then.

[diuretic]

I'll just keep my gold medal then.

We all have our fetishes and shibboleths.