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    Thumbs up MD shortage? 28 states may expand nurses' role

    F the AMA.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100413/...s_med_dr_nurse

    CHICAGO – Your doctor may soon be a nurse.

    There's a shortage of primary care doctors. And that's only expected to get worse as health insurance is expanded under the new law.

    Now 28 states are considering broadening the authority of nurse practitioners. These nurses with advanced degrees want the right to practice without a doctor's watchful eye.

    For years, nurse practitioners have been playing a bigger role in health care, especially in regions with few doctors. But the medical establishment is fighting to protect its turf. The American Medical Association says a doctor shortage is no reason to put nurses in charge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalNation View Post
    F the AMA.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100413/...s_med_dr_nurse

    CHICAGO – Your doctor may soon be a nurse.

    There's a shortage of primary care doctors. And that's only expected to get worse as health insurance is expanded under the new law.
    Thank you B.O. and the democrat party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalNation View Post
    F the AMA.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100413/...s_med_dr_nurse

    CHICAGO – Your doctor may soon be a nurse.

    There's a shortage of primary care doctors. And that's only expected to get worse as health insurance is expanded under the new law.

    Now 28 states are considering broadening the authority of nurse practitioners. These nurses with advanced degrees want the right to practice without a doctor's watchful eye.

    For years, nurse practitioners have been playing a bigger role in health care, especially in regions with few doctors. But the medical establishment is fighting to protect its turf. The American Medical Association says a doctor shortage is no reason to put nurses in charge.
    I see your in favor of this, which illustrates in stark detail how much you don't know.

    While there are some very good Physicians Assistants and Nurse Practitioners out there, they were never meant to replace trained doctors. They should not be able to see patients without oversight, period. They just don't have the training.

    This is not a case of the doctors "protecting their turf", it is doctors protecting patients from wrong diagnosis and senseless tests from inexperienced and under-trained people.

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    Do nurses need malpractice insurance?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insein View Post
    Do nurses need malpractice insurance?
    They can choose to carry it or be covered under their employer.

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    army nps do about everything a doc can do besides surgery. It's like the CRNA vs Doc. debate, the CRNA can do nearly everything a doc can do. Good thing about military medical practice is you ain't gona get sued.

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    There's a shortage of primary care doctors. And that's only expected to get worse as health insurance is expanded under the new law.

    I don't see how anyone can think this is a good thing. The article probably didn't mention that 60 hospitals that are in the planning phase are being cancelled. That's fewer doctors, fewer hospitals...

    now, will someone remind me, how was socialized health care supposed to make things better?

    thank you Barak O-Meathead....
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    more access, the most good for the most people. Time will fix the shortage as more incentives for doing medical are pushed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalNation View Post
    more access, the most good for the most people. Time will fix the shortage as more incentives for doing medical are pushed.
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH................LOLOLOLOL.... ..

    You have got to be kidding me. Incentive.... What f***ing incentive. You take the money and profit out of health care and you lose some the best and brightest people in the world.... You are SOOOOO naive or stupid i haven't decided which it is yet....

    Do you honestly believe that the entire health care establishment is made of all altruistic people. I bet you still believe we are actually represented by the people we vote in office, might as well believe in the tooth fairy while your at it......
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    docs make buko bucks and that wont be changing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalNation View Post
    docs make buko bucks and that wont be changing.
    You keep that little old pipe dream of yours... When health care becomes rationed and your being seen by the NP or PA instead of the over worked and under payed MD you keep on thinking he makes big bucks.. The QUICKEST way to cut cost is PAYROLL.. The sooner you learn that the sooner you will have learned a realism of life and how it works int he real world......
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    already go to an np, she's awesome for primary care and is more commpasionate than any doc I've seen. Docs tend to look at the body like a machine instead of at the person with emotional and physical needs that may not be so cut and dry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalNation View Post
    already go to an np, she's awesome for primary care and is more commpasionate than any doc I've seen. Docs tend to look at the body like a machine instead of at the person with emotional and physical needs that may not be so cut and dry.


    Do you think that will get better or worse when rationing starts?
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    who knows, they get worse the more pressed for time and patients they have to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalNation View Post
    already go to an np, she's awesome for primary care and is more commpasionate than any doc I've seen. Docs tend to look at the body like a machine instead of at the person with emotional and physical needs that may not be so cut and dry.
    I'm not saying there aren't good NP's and PA's out here, many are exceptional at what they do. However, they are not as educated as the doctors and should not be able to practice medicine without the oversight of an actual physician.

    Even before obamacare, this country was looking at a shortage. IMO this will simply make it worse.

    Look at Europe. Doctors aren't paid much, so fewer people enter the field. After all, why spend 10 years in school in order to come out making as much as someone who went to school for 4????????

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