Is it just me, or....

[diuretic]

Growing majority? Or coming out of the closet where they've been hiding until they think libs have the upper hand?

Nothing like "fair weather" friends.

Gunny you'd appreciate the meaning of the term "regroup"

[Gaffer]

A damn good question.

I don't mind real conservatives, I share quite a lot in common with them in terms of philosophy (if there's anyone thinking about attacking me on that statement pause for a moment - you're seeing a forum nickname, not a person now just for a few seconds I'm going to reveal something about the person. Play nice please.) in such areas as freedom from unnecessarily intrusive government, in appreciating the worth of the individual and denouncing the treatment of individuals as mere instruments for the use of other, more powerful bodies or individuals, in allowing that individuals should have a maximum of personal freedom of thought and expression and that governments should only have enough power to get their job done, that any reach for excessive power is defeated at the ballot box.

When it comes to economics we can agree to disagree. My best friend is a conservative and we fight like cat and dog over politics but he stil invites me over for a beer (as long as I bring my own, tight bastard ).

So, yes, the Burkean conservatives I have much respect for.

The Neo-Cons - I wouldn't on one if they were on fire.

They are anti-democratic. They believe in the state above the individual. They prefer rule by the elite and the little folks like me (just an ordinary bloke working for a wage) can get out of the way. Many of them are ex-Trotskyists, ex hard left socialists and communists - in other words they're naturally inclined to authoritarianism and if they can get it, totalitarianism - who were sucked in by a brilliant politics lecture at the University of Chicago (Leo Strauss) and moved from the Stupid Left to the Stupid Right in the political spectrum.

Give me the Burkean conservatives any day.

Interesting. Your description of neocons fits liberals to a tee.

[diuretic]

Interesting. Your description of neocons fits liberals to a tee.

Well done, that was a stunning refutation, stunning, got that from the 8th grade did you? Last week you say?

[Fountainhead]

But puhleeze do not call me the "N"-word ... a Neo-con !

There is no such thing as a Neo-con. It is simply a crass invective made-up to demonize and de-humanize a difference of opinion.

Using the N-word ... is like shouting "McCarthyism" in a crowded theatre. Free speech with evil intent.

[diuretic]

But puhleeze do not call me the "N"-word ... a Neo-con !

There is no such thing as a Neo-con. It is simply a crass invective made-up to demonize and de-humanize a difference of opinion.

Using the N-word ... is like shouting "McCarthyism" in a crowded theatre. Free speech with evil intent.

Don't get all coy on us - you know you used to like being called a Neo-Con, but now they're a bunch of whiney losers and to disavow any connection wth them....man up for crying out loud.