Bradlee is sick...

[jimnyc]

Darin, I hope everything works out for your cat. I know how hard it can be dealing with them in pain, and the pain it can cause to a family.

I'm not going to get into it with others or any name calling. Let me just say that I personally would take a bullet for one of my dogs and would have done the same for all of the cats I used to own. Not a single one of them asked to live with me, and I knew full well when I took them in what possible consequences you can have when dealing with an animal. With that said, I've enjoyed many years of love and affection from my pets. I have one tattooed on me and both my dogs sleep in my bed every night. I've seen the joy and smiles they put on my Mom's face over the years as companionship for her. Just the thought of knowing I will lose my dogs someday makes me sad.

I despise people who take in animals and then treat them badly. I feel for the animals and wish I could do more to help them in helpless situations. That's why my wife and I donate a decent chunk of change yearly to help. If I ever witnessed someone purposely harming a defenseless animal, there's gonna be fists flying. Purposely killing an animal that can just be given to someone else, brought to a shelter that doesn't kill animals, or even letting them go into the wild - is disgusting and I think speaks volumes about ones character. There are MANY places around the country who will take in cats/dogs and guarantee not to put them down. I've donated to a place well known in the NYC area called PAWS that guarantees just that, and it's the best money I've spent.

[glockmail]

Dumping an animal "into the wild" after it has proved its incompetence as a hunter and during the middle of a 6-1/2 month long central New York winter would be an extremely cruel act. I think speaks volumes about ones character.

[LiberalNation]

would normally get picked up in a neighborhood, better than drowning it.......

[pete311]

would normally get picked up in a neighborhood, better than drowning it.......

Having it thrash around in my hand, how horrible.

[cat slave]

Taking a cat to the pound ain't humane. It would sit undernourished and trapped in a cage for a week, sitting in its own feces, then be gassed inside a cage full of others, biting and scratching each other.

I once had a couple ask us if we could take their cat from them because it didn't like their newborn and our kids were older. I agreed and it was a week before I discovered that it was marking my kids bedroom. I called up the guy and he then confessed that it had done the same at his house. I gave him the option of taking his cat back or have me deal with the situation my way.

What's humane is me taking personal responsibility for my cat and killing it as quickly and painlessly as I could. Back then I didn't have a .22 target pistol, so I used a bathtub.

OMG!!!! I cannot believe what I have read! My God, since when does one
snuff out a life because it has become inconvenient?? When did animals
develope the ability to negotiate a contract with a human who holds all
the cards???

Rubbed its nose in ****? How archaic and ignorant!!! Is that how you
potty trained your kids??? Why should an animal be expected to behave
better than your kids?

"Marking" as you say is due to a very few explanations....bladder infection,
stress or dirty litter box. Somehow I dont see you exerting yourself to maintain anything beyond your immediate needs to control.

You should be ashamed and I have no doubt that you will pay for this
horror and killing "in the tunnel" when you pass to the other side or ......
DOWN!

would normally get picked up in a neighborhood, better than drowning it.......

Drowning is a horrible way to go....I can only hope the same fate on any
sicko who "deals" with a problem this way.

do you have a reason for posting in this thread?

I was wondering why he was even here!

so are humans

[jimnyc]

Dumping an animal "into the wild" after it has proved its incompetence as a hunter and during the middle of a 6-1/2 month long central New York winter would be an extremely cruel act. I think speaks volumes about ones character.

You're right, it does say a lot about my character, that I would give an animal a fighting chance as opposed to being a tough guy and putting it in the bag and drowning it. But I would first search for a suitable owner, and also search out humane shelters before allowing it to fend for itself in the wild.

I must wonder how someone treats other living things that can callously kill an animal. I know I'd never let such a person around my children and wouldn't let them help care for my elderly Mom either. How many shitheads do we hear about that started their games by killing animals when they were younger and then moving on to bigger and better things. But I do have more respect for someone that would at least do so with someone or something with a fighting chance as opposed to taking the cowards way out with a bag.

[cat slave]

Why spend money on your kid when you can easily get a new one. We got nearly 7 billion humans on earth. Are they ALL really that special? Just sayin. I have an aunt who was unable to have kids and her three cats are everything to her.

We have a rescue and personal pets too. Read this "glockenschpiel", my
personal cats have Drinkwell water fountains, eat the best (Blue) food money
can buy, are all fixed, vaccinated and Id spend the last cent I had on care
for them.

I just put down a rescue today. She had bone cancer. I am always "with"
my or our animals when they are put down, humanely, with comfort and
reassurance and no fear or struggle and still I am still weepy over the loss.
Each loss is like a little star going out.

I can think of no word beyond "evil" toward the postings I have read here
today.

May we all reap what we sew and give that a thought before doing anything!

Karma, glock.

[cat slave]

You're right, it does say a lot about my character, that I would give an animal a fighting chance as opposed to being a tough guy and putting it in the bag and drowning it. But I would first search for a suitable owner, and also search out humane shelters before allowing it to fend for itself in the wild.

I must wonder how someone treats other living things that can callously kill an animal. I know I'd never let such a person around my children and wouldn't let them help care for my elderly Mom either. How many shitheads do we hear about that started their games by killing animals when they were younger and then moving on to bigger and better things. But I do have more respect for someone that would at least do so with someone or something with a fighting chance as opposed to taking the cowards way out with a bag.

Well said!

[cat slave]

Lymphoma.

If we have to go the Chemo route; there's about a 50% chance he'll live another 2-4 years. We'll do what it takes.

Hey, those are great odds and well worth any monetary investment. Hes
a gorgeous and grand looking cat and lucky to have you as his human!

You might consider giving him some supplements to help shore up his body
while he fights the disease, ie CoQ10, natural vitamins and filtered water
and a diet high in protein. Carbs feed tumors, I would look into canned
foods with no grains, ie Wellness, Core, Wilderness etc. If youre open
to it you might consult with a vet who practices holistic/alternative
therapies in addition to the chemo. Doesnt hurt to cover all bases.

Thank you for loving your kitty and my heart goes out to you and
Bradlee.

[darin]

Darin, I hope everything works out for your cat. I know how hard it can be dealing with them in pain, and the pain it can cause to a family.

I'm not going to get into it with others or any name calling. Let me just say that I personally would take a bullet for one of my dogs and would have done the same for all of the cats I used to own. Not a single one of them asked to live with me, and I knew full well when I took them in what possible consequences you can have when dealing with an animal. With that said, I've enjoyed many years of love and affection from my pets. I have one tattooed on me and both my dogs sleep in my bed every night. I've seen the joy and smiles they put on my Mom's face over the years as companionship for her. Just the thought of knowing I will lose my dogs someday makes me sad.

I despise people who take in animals and then treat them badly. I feel for the animals and wish I could do more to help them in helpless situations. That's why my wife and I donate a decent chunk of change yearly to help. If I ever witnessed someone purposely harming a defenseless animal, there's gonna be fists flying. Purposely killing an animal that can just be given to someone else, brought to a shelter that doesn't kill animals, or even letting them go into the wild - is disgusting and I think speaks volumes about ones character. There are MANY places around the country who will take in cats/dogs and guarantee not to put them down. I've donated to a place well known in the NYC area called PAWS that guarantees just that, and it's the best money I've spent.

Well-said.

People who purposely cause harm to the innocent - animal or human - are morally bankrupt. Seriously...they have deep-seeded issues.

Its awesome that you try and demonize me for having a different viewpoint.

Isn't it immoral to use financial resources to extend the life of a cat when the same money can be give to Food For The Poor and build homes for or feed poor folk in other countries?

I don't demonize you - Your actions demonize you. Your second statement/question is the fallacy of false dilemma. It's not 'either or'.

[cat slave]

How retarded. No difference in your mind between domestic animals and humans?

OH YEAH, there sure is, the animals are pure of heart! Nuff said.

Im sure my blood pressure is up and I need to leave this thread before
I go balistic.

[glockmail]

would normally get picked up in a neighborhood, better than drowning it.......

My "neighborhood" was 200 to 600 acre farms surrounded by 55 mph roads. And it was mid-winter Central New York.

OMG!!!! I cannot believe what I have read! My God, since when does one
snuff out a life because it has become inconvenient?? When did animals
develope the ability to negotiate a contract with a human who holds all
the cards???

Rubbed its nose in ****? How archaic and ignorant!!! Is that how you
potty trained your kids??? Why should an animal be expected to behave
better than your kids?

"Marking" as you say is due to a very few explanations....bladder infection,
stress or dirty litter box. Somehow I dont see you exerting yourself to maintain anything beyond your immediate needs to control.

You should be ashamed and I have no doubt that you will pay for this
horror and killing "in the tunnel" when you pass to the other side or ......
DOWN!




Drowning is a horrible way to go....I can only hope the same fate on any
sicko who "deals" with a problem this way.



I was wondering why he was even here!

You're right, it does say a lot about my character, that I would give an animal a fighting chance as opposed to being a tough guy and putting it in the bag and drowning it. But I would first search for a suitable owner, and also search out humane shelters before allowing it to fend for itself in the wild.

I must wonder how someone treats other living things that can callously kill an animal. I know I'd never let such a person around my children and wouldn't let them help care for my elderly Mom either. How many shitheads do we hear about that started their games by killing animals when they were younger and then moving on to bigger and better things. But I do have more respect for someone that would at least do so with someone or something with a fighting chance as opposed to taking the cowards way out with a bag.

Awesome that you equate me with someone who mistreats kids and old folks. After all, I did it for the children. What's that logical fallacy called?

I just put down a rescue today. She had bone cancer.

oops- You should have given it some expensive treatment. Big mistake, now you're going to hell.

OH YEAH, there sure is, the animals are pure of heart! Nuff said.

Im sure my blood pressure is up and I need to leave this thread before
I go balistic.

There you go- proof that you act with your emotions instead of reason and logic.

Well-said.

People who purposely cause harm to the innocent - animal or human - are morally bankrupt. Seriously...they have deep-seeded issues.





I don't demonize you - Your actions demonize you. Your second statement/question is the fallacy of false dilemma. It's not 'either or'.

That cat wasn't innocent. It didn't do its job and it shat on my kids carpet, to spite them.

You just said that you had a certain amount of cash every two weeks and that you had enough to give the cat treatments with that. That means that you have a finite amount of cash. The money that you save by euthanizing it can therefore be directly donated to Feed The Poor, and a few hundred kids in Haiti will get to eat a meal or two. Instead this cat suffers but you feel better about yourself somehow. Rather odd when you think about it.

[Abbey Marie]

Taking a cat to the pound ain't humane. It would sit undernourished and trapped in a cage for a week, sitting in its own feces, then be gassed inside a cage full of others, biting and scratching each other.

I once had a couple ask us if we could take their cat from them because it didn't like their newborn and our kids were older. I agreed and it was a week before I discovered that it was marking my kids bedroom. I called up the guy and he then confessed that it had done the same at his house. I gave him the option of taking his cat back or have me deal with the situation my way.

What's humane is me taking personal responsibility for my cat and killing it as quickly and painlessly as I could. Back then I didn't have a .22 target pistol, so I used a bathtub.

Maybe in the bad old days, but I have been to dozens of shelters over the years (and volunteered in a few), and I have never seen any of the things you described. If this kind of facility existed, I bet you could have found a much better one by traveling a few more miles.

[darin]

That cat wasn't innocent. It didn't do its job and it shat on my kids carpet, to spite them.

You just said that you had a certain amount of cash every two weeks and that you had enough to give the cat treatments with that. That means that you have a finite amount of cash. The money that you save by euthanizing it can therefore be directly donated to Feed The Poor, and a few hundred kids in Haiti will get to eat a meal or two. Instead this cat suffers but you feel better about yourself somehow. Rather odd when you think about it.

You just assigned value-judgment capability to an animal you murdered. How's that feel?

You and "logical Fallacy" are homosexual lovers. The money we spent so far on the cat is money I'm not putting towards retirement. It's money I'm not using to buy new brakes for the car. It's money I'm not blowing on strippers and booze.

You're trying to justify your vile, morally-bankrupt ways now. It's not only pathetic, it's some of the stupidest contribution this board has seen in years.

At least have the balls to admit you're dead inside, or a liar -just looking to get a rise out of people.

[red states rule]

Lymphoma.

If we have to go the Chemo route; there's about a 50% chance he'll live another 2-4 years. We'll do what it takes.

I hope Bradley does well DMP

I myslef had to spend close to $1,000 to fix up Herbie.



I found him outside and he was a sick little guy. But he is fine now, and very happy