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    Default Do animals have the same moral stature as humans?

    Due to folks arguing about cats/dogs/animals etc being so important in dmp's thread on his sick cat, I thought it'd be best to have this discussion here.

    Do you view animals as being equal to humans? If so, why? If not, why?
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    No. Its in the Bible for man to be the master of his domain, subdue the earth and eat meat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockmail View Post
    No. Its in the Bible for man to be the master of his domain, subdue the earth and eat meat.
    Scripture reference?

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    I don't look to a book to tell me what to think. Humans are animals. We share the earth with other animals, plants, bugs. The earth was not created for us. Obviously like other animals we are concerned and biased towards our own species, but i'd say the vast majority of what we do is well beyond the necessary requirements for our survival.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Cp View Post
    Scripture reference?
    You doubt me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    I don't look to a book to tell me what to think. Humans are animals. We share the earth with them. The earth was not created for us. Obviously like other animals we are concerned and biased towards our own species, but i'd say the vast majority of what we do is well beyond the necessary requirements for our survival.
    So you're a vegan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockmail View Post
    So you're a vegan?
    No, vegan-ism is not healthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Cp View Post
    Due to folks arguing about cats/dogs/animals etc being so important in dmp's thread on his sick cat, I thought it'd be best to have this discussion here.

    Do you view animals as being equal to humans? If so, why? If not, why?
    I do not view animals as being "equal" to humans. I believe we are all animals and humans just happen to be at the top of the food chain. However, I believe that we are responsible for the animals that we domesticate and if we choose to have them be companions, we are responsible for their quality of life. I think it is morally wrong to abuse and neglect them.

    One does not have to see another life as being "equal" to treat it with dignity and respect.
    If the freedom of speech is taken away
    then dumb and silent we may be led,
    like sheep to the slaughter.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    I don't look to a book to tell me what to think. Humans are animals. We share the earth with other animals, plants, bugs. The earth was not created for us. Obviously like other animals we are concerned and biased towards our own species, but i'd say the vast majority of what we do is well beyond the necessary requirements for our survival.
    Must spread rep!
    If the freedom of speech is taken away
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrskurtsprincess View Post
    I do not view animals as being "equal" to humans. I believe we are all animals and humans just happen to be at the top of the food chain. However, I believe that we are responsible for the animals that we domesticate and if we choose to have them be companions, we are responsible for their quality of life. I think it is morally wrong to abuse and neglect them.

    One does not have to see another life as being "equal" to treat it with dignity and respect.
    I would like to add that being in the place we are (at the top) we should feel obligated to look after the lesser forms of life rather than dominate them. We have come from caves through the enlightenment age to a technological wonder land and yet we still treat each other and our planet like a frat house.

    btw, anyone else super excited for Disney Oceans?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pete311 View Post
    I would like to add that being in the place we are (at the top) we should feel obligated to look after the lesser forms of life rather than dominate them. We have come from caves through the enlightenment age to a technological wonder land and yet we still treat each other and our planet like a frat house.

    btw, anyone else super excited for Disney Oceans?
    I feel we should lessen the impact we have on their domain as much as possible and they can look after themselves as nature intended.

    Haven't seen Disney Oceans yet. I'm sure it is spectacular and informative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrskurtsprincess View Post
    Haven't seen Disney Oceans yet. I'm sure it is spectacular and informative.
    Comes out on theaters tomorrow!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockmail View Post
    You doubt me?
    Of course...

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Cp View Post
    Of course...
    Before I look up the passages in the Bible I need to know that your next post ain't going to be "the bible isn't the moral authority" or some whore shit like that.

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    Isn't it immoral to use financial resources to extend the life of a cat when the same money can be give to Food For The Poor and build homes for or feed poor folk in other countries?

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