Is Tea Party really about freedom & constition?

[revelarts]

Is the Tea party Really about the constitution and the bill of rights. It was begun by the Ron Paul folks but now they are treated like party crashers.

here's an Obama and Palin protester being ushered to a "free speech" zone at a TEA PARTY FREEDOM RALLY!???!!!

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I know there are a lot of freedom loving people in the tea parties but whats going on at here?

[DragonStryk72]

You mean the same "free speech" zones that Obama himself uses?

[revelarts]

yes that's exactly what i mean.

Or is it OK it when the right does it?
And only wrong when the left does it?

RIGHT gov't Boot on your neck or LEFT gov't Boot what hecks the difference Dragon?

[chloe]

I don't understand your point Rev, the tea party had an event, the protestors were anti palin and anti obama and the event had a free speech zone where they could do there protest. If there was an anti palin event and the event had a free speech zone I guess more people would be in it instead of the lowly two people who showed up to crash the tea party event. They guy was just trying to be smug about it but there was a place set up for him.

[DragonStryk72]

yes that's exactly what i mean.

Well, it is somewhat hypocritical, but then, people don't always stop at the point of making a simple point, and the Tea Party, if you remember, got that bum rap of racism (talked about how racist the tea partiers were while shooting a huy who was armed. Never showed his face or hands, and turns out later, guy was black. That's not even isolated incident. tea Party members are getting physically attacked at peaceful protests, so likely they've gotten a bit cagey from it.

It's sad, but if the other side can't act responsibly, then the fact is that's what's going to happen. I don't see this person jumping up to defend partiers who were attacked though, just complaining because he was treated the same way that conservatives get treated at liberal events.

There shouldn't be any "free speech zones" anywhere in the USA, because the entire country is supposed to be a free speech zone.

[SassyLady]

This guy's rant is typical of why he was escorted out ... they were calling the escort a facist. To me it seemed they were trying to instigate an incident. Freedom of speech means they can coordinate their own event and invite whoever they want. If you crash a party and don't follow the etiquette rules set by the host/hostess, I'm sure they will ask you to leave their home. It looked to me like the Tea Party people had an event scheduled and hired event staff to make sure the rules were followed ... their signs didn't fit the guidelines ... and they were just asked to leave the main event area because their signs were offensive .... I see no problem with that.

[Binky]

[QUOTE=revelarts;430020]Is the Tea party Really about the constitution and the bill of rights. It was begun by the Ron Paul folks but now they are treated like party crashers.

here's an Obama and Palin protester being ushered to a "free speech" zone at a TEA PARTY FREEDOM RALLY!???!!!

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I know there are a lot of freedom loving people in the tea parties but whats going on at here?[/QUOTE


If they gave them an area to rant what's the big deal? He still got to protest and exercise his free speech rights....

[revelarts]

Well, it is somewhat hypocritical,

Agreed.

...but then, people don't always stop at the point of making a simple point, and the Tea Party, if you remember, got that bum rap of racism (talked about how racist the tea partiers were while shooting a huy who was armed. Never showed his face or hands, and turns out later, guy was black. That's not even isolated incident. tea Party members are getting physically attacked at peaceful protests, so likely they've gotten a bit cagey from it.

Tea party has gotten a bum rape on the racism and gun issues. Seems to me if the tea party is willing to stand by guys who come in and open carry a gun then they can stand a few people with "offensive" (anti Palin) signs.
There has been some violence against tea party folks as well but this guy seemed pretty peaceful. ANd we don't throw people out for POTENTIALLY causing a problem.

It's sad, but if the other side can't act responsibly, then the fact is that's what's going to happen. I don't see this person jumping up to defend partiers who were attacked though, just complaining because he was treated the same way that conservatives get treated at liberal events.

I don't think that guys an Obama supporter , And I'm not sure why he should be defending Attacked Tea Party people as he's getting escorted out DS.

There shouldn't be any "free speech zones" anywhere in the USA, because the entire country is supposed to be a free speech zone.

Absolutely!
ANd the Tea Parties ought to be an Example of how it's done. Just like they encourage or Allow open carry at the events. Free speech should be shown to be Promoted as well. PRO and CON that's what it's all about.

[revelarts]

I don't understand your point Rev, the tea party had an event, the protestors were anti palin and anti obama and the event had a free speech zone where they could do there protest. If there was an anti palin event and the event had a free speech zone I guess more people would be in it instead of the lowly two people who showed up to crash the tea party event. They guy was just trying to be smug about it but there was a place set up for him.

Is the Tea party Really about the constitution and the bill of rights. It was begun by the Ron Paul folks but now they are treated like party crashers.


If they gave them an area to rant what's the big deal? He still got to protest and exercise his free speech rights....

Dragon answers the question.

...There shouldn't be any "free speech zones" anywhere in the USA, because the entire country is supposed to be a free speech zone.

that's it.

[revelarts]

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[revelarts]

Pastor arrested at Liberty Bell on the public side walk for not being in the "Free Speech Zone".

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[sybarite]

It was clear that there was a speaker on the microphone in the backround that was scheduled to speak. When you have over a thousand people trying to listen to a guest speaker you can not have every Tom, Dick, and Harry shouting out whatever they want, even if you agree with them. Events like this have to be done in an orderly fashion or your going to have chaos. A place where he could go to "speak freely" probably was far enough away from the guest speaker so he would not disturb the people trying to listen to the guest speaker, and whoever wanted to listen to the Tea Partier's opinions could do so, as not to compete with the guest speaker. The Tea Parties I have attended did not have "rude" people shouting out opinions when someone at the podium was trying to speak.

[revelarts]

It was clear that there was a speaker on the microphone in the backround that was scheduled to speak. When you have over a thousand people trying to listen to a guest speaker you can not have every Tom, Dick, and Harry shouting out whatever they want, even if you agree with them. Events like this have to be done in an orderly fashion or your going to have chaos. A place where he could go to "speak freely" probably was far enough away from the guest speaker so he would not disturb the people trying to listen to the guest speaker, and whoever wanted to listen to the Tea Partier's opinions could do so, as not to compete with the guest speaker. The Tea Parties I have attended did not have "rude" people shouting out opinions when someone at the podium was trying to speak.

I get the impression that he was only holding up a sign though not interrupting the speaker.

[sybarite]

I get the impression that he was only holding up a sign though not interrupting the speaker.

At our tea parties almost everyone there has a protest sign so that didn't sound right to me so I did a little investigating. I went to the site on the bottom of the video, http://www.wearechange.org/?p=1806. On this video, we saw nothing prior to this man being escorted out so we have no idea what he did or said. If you click on this site and see other their other protests, they are anything but quiet and cause quite a disturbance.

[revelarts]

At our tea parties almost everyone there has a protest sign so that didn't sound right to me so I did a little investigating. I went to the site on the bottom of the video, http://www.wearechange.org/?p=1806. On this video, we saw nothing prior to this man being escorted out so we have no idea what he did or said. If you click on this site and see other their other protests, they are anything but quiet and cause quite a disturbance.

Sometimes they are loud sometimes not. the guy in the vid I posted had no bullhorn that I could see. and says he's only holding up a sign.