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    Default 11 soldiers arrested in home invasion

    That was mean.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070427/...4USk4UwORvzwcF

    WATERTOWN, N.Y. - Eleven Fort Drum soldiers burst into a fellow soldier's home and attacked him and his wife, kicking him repeatedly and punching her in the face, authorities said Friday.

    The attack late Wednesday was in retaliation for the earlier arrest of another soldier, state police said. The 11 were charged with burglary and one also was charged with second-degree assault for allegedly hitting the soldier's wife with a bottle.

    Carl Laws, 22, and his wife, Emily Hernandez, 21, were released from Samaritan Medical Center after treatment for multiple cuts and bruises.

    Additional charges are possible after the case is presented to a grand jury, state police investigator Randy Pound said.

    The soldier who had been arrested earlier did not take part in the attack, Pound said. That arrest stemmed from a complaint made by the couple involving the alleged violation of an order of protection, authorities said. No further details were given.

    Fort Drum spokesman Lt. Col. Paul Fitzpatrick confirmed that all 11 soldiers are members of the 10th Mountain Division stationed there.

    Although the investigation and prosecution are being handled by civilian authorities, Army officials will review the case.

    "We support the investigation," Fitzpatrick said. "The Army does not tolerate this kind of conduct. ... It is totally out of character with our training and values."

    Charged with burglary were Tyson Tucker, 20; Martin Johnson, 22; Jason Cofield, 25; Erica Hodges, 19; Shavonn Wynne, 22; Vianka DelCid, 19; Tyrone Lihpai, 22; James Skinner, 27; Carlton Causey, 28; Randi Bush, 18; and Shalota Williams, 22. Wynne was also charged with second-degree assault for allegedly hitting the soldier's wife.

    Williams was turned over to her military superiors; the other 10 were ordered held in the Jefferson County jail on $5,000 bail each.

    Fort Drum is about 75 miles north of Syracuse. The 17,000-member 10th Mountain Division, which is based there, has been one of the mainstays of Army deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan. Fitzpatrick said he did not believe any of the arrested soldiers had been recently deployed to either place.

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    It'll be a cold day in hell before post any of the THOUSANDS Of good-news stories about Soldiers...am I wrong?
    “… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.

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    Hey show me some good stories and I'll post em. Bad news sells in the media and that's a lot of what they put out. i can't help that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalNation View Post
    Hey show me some good stories and I'll post em. Bad news sells in the media and that's a lot of what they put out. i can't help that.
    wow - you're right...can't even get much love from ARMY sources

    http://www.armytimes.com/news/news/
    “… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.

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    It's interesting. I'm wondering if the Army has a gang culture problem. I have to praise the response of the Army though, they're not shying away from it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    It'll be a cold day in hell before post any of the THOUSANDS Of good-news stories about Soldiers...am I wrong?
    I'm still trying to figure out why the story was post worthy? Seems like a domestic/criminal problem to me? I'm missing something?

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    Every news story is post worthy. You don't hafta comment if you don't wana ya know.

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    It's very interesting. I read a piece where the Army in particular is admitting it's having problems because it lowered the standards for recruiting and now it's worried about the aftermath. Same thing happened in our Army, we lowered the standards and now we have links between Army personnel and outlaw motorcycle gangs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    I'm still trying to figure out why the story was post worthy? Seems like a domestic/criminal problem to me? I'm missing something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
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    Paranoid are we:?

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    Quote Originally Posted by diuretic View Post
    Paranoid are we:?


    I don't know, are you? I am just very aware of people's, shall we say, "tendencies".
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    Quote Originally Posted by diuretic View Post
    It's very interesting. I read a piece where the Army in particular is admitting it's having problems because it lowered the standards for recruiting and now it's worried about the aftermath. Same thing happened in our Army, we lowered the standards and now we have links between Army personnel and outlaw motorcycle gangs.
    where did you read this piece? Our army hasn't lowered any standards. Since your country is full of liberals I imagine its much harder to get recruits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post


    I don't know, are you? I am just very aware of people's, shall we say, "tendencies".
    It's good to be aware, for sure, no point in walking around with your eyes closed. And the odd conspiracy theory is okay but when it become reflexive, time to get it checked out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    where did you read this piece? Our army hasn't lowered any standards. Since your country is full of liberals I imagine its much harder to get recruits.
    When was the last time you were here? R and R during Vietnam?

    Quick search - http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...cruiting_x.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by diuretic View Post
    It's very interesting. I read a piece where the Army in particular is admitting it's having problems because it lowered the standards for recruiting and now it's worried about the aftermath. Same thing happened in our Army, we lowered the standards and now we have links between Army personnel and outlaw motorcycle gangs.
    They've actually risen their standards and part of the reason their rates of people re-upping arn't high is because they're telling people not to come back.

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