View Poll Results: Who Killed JFK?

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  • Lee Harvey Oswald ALONE

    2 20.00%
  • Oswald and others or controled by others

    2 20.00%
  • Oswald was a Patsy, the Mob and or the Cubans did it.

    2 20.00%
  • Oswald was a Patsy, Some people in the US gov't did it.

    3 30.00%
  • Oswald?! what a joke! It would take a book to explain it 2U

    1 10.00%
  • I dont know, but I don't think Oswald did it.

    0 0%
  • I don't care, it doesn't matter.

    0 0%
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    Default Conspricary #1: JFK who do you think did it?

    I'm more and more open toward "conspiracy" info.
    the original modern US conspiracy is JFK. I wonder what's the take of folks here.

    Do you believe the gov'ts 1st story, lone gunman, or something else?
    Last edited by revelarts; 06-25-2010 at 12:33 PM.
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    what about "Jackie hired a hit man because she was pissed about Marilyn"?.....
    ...full immersion.....

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    Castro had something to do with it, I think. Castro had plenty of motivation to kill JFK (and RFK, too, for that matter) and the means to do it.

    The reason that the conspiracy theory that some right wing shadow organization killed off Kennedy seems popular in the media is that Oswald, a COMMUNIST, killed JFK a leftist icon. That seems to be too much for them to deal with.
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    It was the phone company.
    "The social contract exists so that everyone doesn’t have to squat in the dust holding a spear to protect his woman and his meat all day every day. It does not exist so that the government can take your spear, your meat, and your woman because it knows better what to do with them." - Instapundit.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    what about "Jackie hired a hit man because she was pissed about Marilyn"?.....
    just Marilyn?
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    Elvis...
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    "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with a lot of pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
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    Michael Jackson.


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    had Michael Jackson even been born when JFK was killed?.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    had Michael Jackson even been born when JFK was killed?.....
    that is irrelevant.


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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    I'm more and more open toward "conspiracy" info.
    the original modern US conspiracy is JFK. I wonder what's the take of folks here.

    Do you believe the gov'ts 1st story, lone gunman, or something else?
    The CIA did it under the direction of LBJ. No theory needed.

    Of course Oswald was just a dupe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post
    The CIA did it under the direction of LBJ. No theory needed.

    Of course Oswald was just a dupe.
    Yes a theory is needed here.

    It is needed because your claims are completely imaginary.

    You have no evidence for either of your claims that the CIA did it under LBJ's direction and that Oswald was a dupe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soupnazi630 View Post
    Yes a theory is needed here.

    It is needed because your claims are completely imaginary.

    You have no evidence for either of your claims that the CIA did it under LBJ's direction and that Oswald was a dupe.
    Actually, I do. I wrote my Master's Thesis on this very subject. There is VERY credible evidence to suggest that Kennedy wanted us out of Vietnam as early as 1967 and Johnson's wife's family made A LOT of money off the continuation of that war. AND you have to remember that our government routinely did shit like this back in the 50's and 60's. It's not that far fetched to imagine that they would have been involved in something like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConHog View Post
    Actually, I do. I wrote my Master's Thesis on this very subject. There is VERY credible evidence to suggest that Kennedy wanted us out of Vietnam as early as 1967 and Johnson's wife's family made A LOT of money off the continuation of that war. AND you have to remember that our government routinely did shit like this back in the 50's and 60's. It's not that far fetched to imagine that they would have been involved in something like this.

    Actually you do not and you just proved you do not.

    The claim that Kennedy would have withdrawn us from Vietnam has been argued by many historians since the Vietnam war began. It is a worthy argument but not a certainty that he MIGHT have withdrawn, historians disagree and in fact it is all speculation simply because it never happened. What MIGHT have happened is always speculation.

    Speculation is not fact nor is it evidence.

    Either way none of what you claim is evidence that Oswald was duped and the CIA killed Kennedy under LBJ's direction. As you point out in your post it is easy to IMAGINE that it happened that way but imagination by definition is not reality and does not constitute evidence.

    Congratulations on a masters degree but you still have no evidence that there was a conspiracy to kill JFK involving LBJ the CIA etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soupnazi630 View Post
    Actually you do not and you just proved you do not.

    The claim that Kennedy would have withdrawn us from Vietnam has been argued by many historians since the Vietnam war began. It is a worthy argument but not a certainty that he MIGHT have withdrawn, historians disagree and in fact it is all speculation simply because it never happened. What MIGHT have happened is always speculation.

    Speculation is not fact nor is it evidence.

    Either way none of what you claim is evidence that Oswald was duped and the CIA killed Kennedy under LBJ's direction. As you point out in your post it is easy to IMAGINE that it happened that way but imagination by definition is not reality and does not constitute evidence.

    Congratulations on a masters degree but you still have no evidence that there was a conspiracy to kill JFK involving LBJ the CIA etc.
    Of course , this is why it's called a conspiracy theory and not fact. I BELIEVE the evidence points to my conclusion. I certainly don't claim 100% it's true though.

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