So hearsay is the basis for Fascist plots now?Originally Posted by revelarts
Lee Harvey Oswald ALONE
Oswald and others or controled by others
Oswald was a Patsy, the Mob and or the Cubans did it.
Oswald was a Patsy, Some people in the US gov't did it.
Oswald?! what a joke! It would take a book to explain it 2U
I dont know, but I don't think Oswald did it.
I don't care, it doesn't matter.
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So hearsay is the basis for Fascist plots now?
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If you read into the Kennedy story, how Johnson was a compromise choice as VP and how much opposition there was to Kennedy in Texas, you gain a greater understanding as to why it happened. Not to mention why so many people with links to the assassination ended up dying. And why the Warren Commission was a total fraud.
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Wrong.
I never said he was telling the truth at all.
I clearly stated he was NOT telling the truth and I was not ambiguous. Try reading my post again.
The house Select committee on Assassinations reached no such conclusion as you claim they never determined Oswald was NOT acting alone.
The conclusion of the HSCA was that there was a PROBABLE conspiracy. That is a horse of a different color from what you claim.
On the other hand they exhaustively investigated every lead and eliminated any conspiracy involving the Mafia, The CIA, The FBI, The Secret Service, The military Industrial Complex and anyone else which the conspiracy nuts blame. In fact the OGIRINAL report of the HSCA which is still available states that Oswald acted alone. The Committee changed this conclusion after the introduction of an analysis of a dicta-phone belt recording which led some to believe a second shooter may have been on the knoll. Unfortunately it was AFTER the HSCA was disbanded that this analysis was thoroughly debunked and proven wrong and since the second conclusion was based strictly on this analysis they never addressed the problem.
In the end there is no evidence what so ever of a second shooter or a conspiracy.
You ask if is is possible the Warren Commission lied the fact is any one can lie but as I pointed out neither you nor anyone else can specifically identify such a lie or prove one. The Warren Commissions work stands unchallenged by any conspiracy nut unless THEY lie ( and yes their lies can be proven ) about the commissions report. Rather than ask if they COULD have lied try pointing out a lie they stated.
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There are many different versions of the Kennedy story written by many different people. Many VPs end up being compromise choices to secure votes in states or from various factions but none of that remotely proves or suggests a conspiracy in the death of Kennedy.
Most people in Texas were not so opposed to Kennedy that they advocated his murder nor did any officials or government officials in Texas work to assassinate him. Oswald could not have cared less but he did kill Kennedy.
The legend about people linked to the assassination dying off is in fact not just legend but pure myth. The assassination happened almost fifty years ago and in that span of time many people WILL die regardless of their link to each other or a specific event. There is no evidence what so ever of any unusual deaths in connection to Kennedy's assassination other than Oswald himself.
Finally there is no evidence of any fraud on the part of the Warren Commission, like many conspiracy nuts it is easy for you to make such accusations but not so easy to back up and so far no one has refuted their conclusion or proven any act of fraud on their part.
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Sure. Because most everyone who could refute the allegations of conspiracy died not too long after the assassination. Others wisely chose to keep quiet. You really should read more about the whole affair.
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This is simply not true.
Over the past fifty years many people with knowledge of the conspiracy have died but that is to be expected over the course of decades.
As I stated the idea of mysterious deaths linked to the assassination is myth and nothing more.
Sorry but I dare say I have read as much or more than you but not as selectively.
Try reading both sides of the argument and do not limit yourself to conspiracy propaganda, a good starting point is the Warren Commission report.
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It was JFK
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Nice entertaining fiction which is what all the other conspiracy theories are.
Equally as realistic also
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Well I admit entertaining is subjective, you for example may find a story entertaining which I find boring or vice-versa.
But yes all fiction.
Meaning people make up such stories to sell books, movies etc.
Your head exploded
The CIA did it under the direction of LBJ. No theory needed.
Of course Oswald was just a dupe.
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Yes a theory is needed here.
It is needed because your claims are completely imaginary.
You have no evidence for either of your claims that the CIA did it under LBJ's direction and that Oswald was a dupe.
Your head exploded
Actually, I do. I wrote my Master's Thesis on this very subject. There is VERY credible evidence to suggest that Kennedy wanted us out of Vietnam as early as 1967 and Johnson's wife's family made A LOT of money off the continuation of that war. AND you have to remember that our government routinely did shit like this back in the 50's and 60's. It's not that far fetched to imagine that they would have been involved in something like this.
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Actually you do not and you just proved you do not.
The claim that Kennedy would have withdrawn us from Vietnam has been argued by many historians since the Vietnam war began. It is a worthy argument but not a certainty that he MIGHT have withdrawn, historians disagree and in fact it is all speculation simply because it never happened. What MIGHT have happened is always speculation.
Speculation is not fact nor is it evidence.
Either way none of what you claim is evidence that Oswald was duped and the CIA killed Kennedy under LBJ's direction. As you point out in your post it is easy to IMAGINE that it happened that way but imagination by definition is not reality and does not constitute evidence.
Congratulations on a masters degree but you still have no evidence that there was a conspiracy to kill JFK involving LBJ the CIA etc.
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