View Poll Results: Who Killed JFK?

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  • Lee Harvey Oswald ALONE

    2 20.00%
  • Oswald and others or controled by others

    2 20.00%
  • Oswald was a Patsy, the Mob and or the Cubans did it.

    2 20.00%
  • Oswald was a Patsy, Some people in the US gov't did it.

    3 30.00%
  • Oswald?! what a joke! It would take a book to explain it 2U

    1 10.00%
  • I dont know, but I don't think Oswald did it.

    0 0%
  • I don't care, it doesn't matter.

    0 0%
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuvRPgrl View Post
    In particular, the various investigations performed by the U.S. government were faulted for insufficient consideration of the possibility of a conspiracy in each case. The Committee in its report also made recommendations for legislative and administrative improvements, including making some assassinations Federal crimes.
    The Chief Counsel of the Committee later changed his views that the CIA was being cooperative and forthcoming with the investigation when he learned that the CIA's special liaison to the Committee researchers, George Joannides, was actually involved with some of the organizations that Lee Harvey Oswald was involved with in the months leading up to the assassination, including an anti-Castro group, the DRE, which was linked to the CIA, where the liaison, Joannides, worked in 1963. Chief Counsel Blakey later stated that Joannides, instead, should have been interviewed by the Committee, rather than serving as a gatekeeper to the CIA's evidence and files regarding the assassination. He further disregarded and suspected all the CIA's statements and representations to the Committee, accusing it of obstruction of justice. [2]Try a dictionary, look up the word MIGHT, when you claim something might have happened or might not have happened it is by definition NOT a certainty..
    DUH, why not state the obvious

    Thanks for your OPINION



    You should apply your statement to Ruby , his motive for shooting oswald is weak at best.
    foul play, actually in most cases yes.

    Apparentlly the HSCA disagrees with you

    Again, they disagree
    Under such circumstances the question is not how can one prove he acted alone but instead what proof is there of a conspiracy. The answer is none..[/QUOTE]Wrong

    repeating yourself doesnt make it true.
    1. Scientific acoustical evidence establishes a high probability that at least two gunmen fired at President John F. Kennedy. Other scientific evidence does not preclude the possibility of two gunmen firing at the President. Scientific evidence negates some specific conspiracy allegations.
    2. The committee believes, on the basis of the evidence available to it, that President John F. Kennedy was probably assassinated as a result of a conspiracy. The committee was unable to identify the other gunmen or the extent of the conspiracy.
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    You need to grasp the difference between facts and opinion it is you presenting opiniond I presnted facts.

    No one is able to fault the various investigations as you claim with any evidence.

    The fact is the ibvestigated the possibility of conspiracy to an exhaustive degree and the only people challenging that fact ( without proof ) is theorists who wish to sell books.

    If you ignore facts I presented than it bears repeating and you have.

    The final REVISED report of the HSCA has been debunked and proven wrong. The acoustic evidence used to reach that conclusion was ruined by the necessary conditions which were placed on the evidence by the very experts who found and presented the evidence.

    This evidence was a recording of the sounds picked up by a motorcycle officer who'se shoulder mic was stuck in the transmit position. In order to determine where the shots came from the acoustics experts stated that the specific officer HAD to be located in a two meter circle near the intersection of Elm and Houston Streets. Unfortunately it was later determined he was no where near that two meter circle he was in fact at the coner of MAin and Houston Streets when the shooing ended. This is proven by photographs which showthe officer in that position as the limo was entering the underpassby which time of course all shooting had stopped.. In addtion many other experts dispute these findings for the simple reason that no gun shots are heard on the recording and such recordings easily and clearly pick up gun shots as distinct sounds.


    The final report was revised based on the acoustic evidence and no other evidence. Since the evidence is proven false so is the final report. The original report BTW stated the fact that there is no evidence of a conspiracy. And that fact stioll stands.

    I stated the obvious because you seem to ignore it. Motive is not enough to prove murder or conspiracy. Those with the most to gain in ANY murder are generally not the guilty party. Once again as you ignored a rich guy dies of foul play they may investigate his heirs but they usually are not guilty. Might haves mean nothing evidence means everything and no evidence supports any conspiracy theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuvRPgrl View Post
    An assasination is about ending someone life, often with the plan to escape after
    Conspiracies are by definition intended to be stealth, therefore usually about the only evidence will NOT be physical evidence.

    . Oswald did not want to get caught, yet was easily apprehended.
    Ruby had NO CREDIBLE motive for murdering Oswald, other than coverup
    . RUBY'S personallity doesnt lead one to think he would murder someone for the motive you assign to him. In fact quite the opposite.
    He was heavily involved in issues that involve vices and catering to ones desire for immediate gratification, those kind of people never are willing to give up their life based on the reasons you ascribe to him. Thats a joke, hiding under a blanket doesnt make the information "not credible"

    You simply dismiss anyone who states anything contrary to Oswald acted alone by claiming they are lieing or not credible.
    . You say one needs more than motive to '" prove " something, yet you dismiss and FBI agent based only on the motive that he seeks attention, even though a research of the man indicates he is not an attention seeker, which is normal for FBI agents, as they rarely are recognized for their work, except anonymously

    Regarding Kennedys plan to pull out of vietman, you said he MIGHT have such plans, and since Might doesnt prove he will, make it irrelevant.
    But, it wasnt "he might have plans", he did IN FACT have such plans.

    Your arrogance is exceeded only by your narrow mindedness.

    The causes of death by possible witnesses or people who had connections to the assasination is bizarre.
    Oswald was not EASILY caught as you say a police officer lost his life in the course of Oswald's apprehension this is a far cry from EASY. He also attempted to draw his weapon and resist en they arrested him in the theater again not EASY.

    I have stated facts and evidence you have not and in many cases the facts and evidence prove lies from people so deal with it.

    You seem to think yolu know a lot about what motivates people to commit murder claiming that Ruby's personality is not one which would lead a person to do such a thing but crims happen everyday proving you wrong such people often do commit murder for silly and ridiculous motives.

    Kennedy did not have plans to withdraw from Vietnam in fact quite the opposite the plans signed by LBJ which increased Americas involvement in Vietnam were prpared FOR JFK's signature he simply died before he could sign them. LBJ was continueing the policy by signing them not changing the policy.

    If you scroll back and stop ignoring facts you will see that the FBI agents compromisedhimself and proved to be misleading and dishonest which is proven by fact I did not " dissmis" him.

    Come up with some evidence not might have beens and could haves.

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    Bush did it!......................................At least that's what Barry Sortero told me. What the Hell, I've never caught him manufacturing a falsification/fabrication/distortion/prevarication/misrepresentation/untruth/falsehood/deception/concoction/exaggeration before.

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    I think it was an elaborate suicide. Those Kennedys are such attention whores.
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    Maybe LBJ
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    the Magic Bullet, exhibit 399

    Which we've been told went through JFK and Gov. Connolly was obviously planted and should Never have been in the warren report. the fact that they used it and suppressed the details of it shows that there was intentional misdirection (cover up-lies) in the Warren commission report on the assassination.

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    and then there's the entrance wound described by the Dr at a press conference and later by Dr's on hand indicates 2 shooters at least.


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