Here's a quote for you....

[revelarts]

In keeping silent about evil, in burying it so deep within us that no sign of it appears on the surface, we are implanting it, and it will rise up a thousandfold in the future. When we neither punish nor reproach evildoers . . . we are ripping the foundations of justice from beneath new generations.
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

[revelarts]

To do evil a human being must first of all believe that what he's doing is good, or else that it's a well-considered act in conformity with natural law. Fortunately, it is in the nature of the human being to seek a justification for his actions.
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

just reminds me of
When some claimed 'we HAVE TO demand vaccination'. they thought they were doing good.
When some claimed 'we HAVE TO torture'. they thought they were doing good. (or claimed "it's not torture")


ok here's one place where I'd dare to differ a bit from Solzhenitsyn.
I'd say the above is true unless they are psychopaths.
OR they've been gradually acclimated to do evil regularly over time (boiling frog style) like many of the NAZI soldiers were.
(though he probably says the same somewhere i just don't know about it)

[AHZ]

Both excellent quotes from one of mankind's true treasures. Alexsander Salty Nixon.

[AHZ]

To do evil a human being must first of all believe that what he's doing is good, or else that it's a well-considered act in conformity with natural law. Fortunately, it is in the nature of the human being to seek a justification for his actions.
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn


ok here's one place where I'd dare to differ a bit from Solzhenitsyn.
I'd say the above is true unless they are psychopaths.
OR they've been gradually acclimated to do evil regularly over time (boiling frog style) like many of the NAZI soldiers were.

(though he probably says the same somewhere i just don't know about it)

that gradual acclimation to evil goes to the first part of the quote, where a man comes to be believe what's he's doing is good.

the mass murderer eugenicists of today have convinced people that making sure people die "allows evolution to occur" or some such darwinian / malthusian / luciferian nonsense.

or as some would say it "weeds out the losers".

"culling the herd" is another mass murderer phrase, when you use it about people.

this is naziism.

[revelarts]

that gradual acclimation to evil goes to the first part of the quote, where a man comes to be believe what's he's doing is good.

the mass murderer eugenicists of today have convinced people that making sure people die "allows evolution to occur" or some such darwinian / malthusian / luciferian nonsense.

or as some would say it "weeds out the losers".

"culling the herd" is another mass murderer phrase, when you use it about people.

this is naziism.

I agree with a lot of that.

Here's the thing to connect here.
It goes to the point about "do unto others" golden rule as THE basis for morality unattached to the rest of the moral laws and the Biblical understanding of who human being are.


If the darwinist is correct then "getting rid of weeds" makes sense. It's for the benefit of the others, the rest of the species.
It's the general basis for Hitler's POV.
He wasn't killing people in the camps, he was killing "vermin, subspecies, febble minded" that held back the health and welfare of the Pure German Volksgemeinschaft.

What he did was ..."for the greater good".


If he believed his statements ,what was theproblem with his assertions.

Well 1st of all it Seems he misunderstood who fell into the the category of Human Beings.
Why? Because he believed the current "Science" and pagan myths about Ayrians.

Jesus dealt with this misunderstanding of WHO is a human being/other on many occasions, 1 in the parable of the good Samaritain.
He rejected the prejudice of the the day. including all in the human family no matter what race, sick or well, rich or poor.

and Genesis makes clear that we are all FAMILY every human is "made in the image of God".
It's 1 of reasons given why we do not kill. It's an attack on God by poxy.
And the opposite of what we are supposed to do, which is to Love each other.

The Darwinist, Malthusians, NAZIS, & communist nuts misunderstand who man is. (intentionally or unintentionally)
and the value of EACH human being.

[AHZ]

I agree with a lot of that.

Here's the thing to connect here.
It goes to the point about "do unto others" golden rule as THE basis for morality unattached to the rest of the moral laws and the Biblical understanding of who human being are.


If the darwinist is correct then "getting rid of weeds" makes sense. It's for the benefit of the others, the rest of the species.
It's the general basis for Hitler's POV.
He wasn't killing people in the camps, he was killing "vermin, subspecies, febble minded" that held back the health and welfare of the Pure German Volksgemeinschaft.

What he did was ..."for the greater good".


If he believed his statements ,what was theproblem with his assertions.

Well 1st of all it Seems he misunderstood who fell into the the category of Human Beings.
Why? Because he believed the current "Science" and pagan myths about Ayrians.

Jesus dealt with this misunderstanding of WHO is a human being/other on many occasions, 1 in the parable of the good Samaritain.
He rejected the prejudice of the the day. including all in the human family no matter what race, sick or well, rich or poor.

and Genesis makes clear that we are all FAMILY every human is "made in the image of God".
It's 1 of reasons given why we do not kill. It's an attack on God by poxy.
And the opposite of what we are supposed to do, which is to Love each other.

The Darwinist, Malthusians, NAZIS, & communist nuts misunderstand who man is. (intentionally or unintentionally)
and the value of EACH human being.

the darwinist theory is a 'might makes right' luciferianism and a dehumanization of humans.

even if we did evolve from apes, it's wrong to be an asshole.

[Kathianne]

the darwinist theory is a 'might makes right' luciferianism and a dehumanization of humans.

even if we did evolve from apes, it's wrong to be an asshole.

Then just stop being one.

[revelarts]

the darwinist theory is a 'might makes right' luciferianism and a dehumanization of humans.
even if we did evolve from apes, it's wrong to be an asshole.

why? Might makes right.
There are NO goals, or overarching moral law giver. just a bunch of other "evolved" monkeys.
Survival is just a raw instinct. And it isn't even universal at all times. People and animals, even whole colonies of animals, commit suicide from time to time. Or simply do stupid things to get killed. Animals of all kind abandon their young. some of the strongest in a some groups sacrifice themselves with NO guarantee of future survival of the young or the group. The vast number of mast extinctions shows that survival is not really that powerful or accurate a driver. Life ... if just matter and time... is very tenuous and not going to last long in the imagined billions of years scheme of things.

[icansayit]

We are All SINNERS. Nothing anyone says, thinks, does, or pretends to be can change that.

"Let he who is without sin. Cast the first stone". Comes to mind.

Any takers?

[Kathianne]

We are All SINNERS. Nothing anyone says, thinks, does, or pretends to be can change that.

"Let he who is without sin. Cast the first stone". Comes to mind.

Any takers?

I totally do, it's easy to lose one's temper and go off. Then again:

[hjmick]

"If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole."



I get the impression that there is a member on this sight who "runs into assholes all day..."

[Black Diamond]

"If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole."



I get the impression that there is a member on this sight who "runs into assholes all day..."

Interesting.

And agreed re the poster

[hjmick]

Interesting.

And agreed re the poster

The quote is from the character Raylan Givens in Justified.


It's a quote that I have reflected on more than once...

[revelarts]

[AHZ]

I agree with a lot of that.

Here's the thing to connect here.
It goes to the point about "do unto others" golden rule as THE basis for morality unattached to the rest of the moral laws and the Biblical understanding of who human being are.


If the darwinist is correct then "getting rid of weeds" makes sense. It's for the benefit of the others, the rest of the species.
It's the general basis for Hitler's POV.
He wasn't killing people in the camps, he was killing "vermin, subspecies, febble minded" that held back the health and welfare of the Pure German Volksgemeinschaft.

What he did was ..."for the greater good".


If he believed his statements ,what was theproblem with his assertions.

Well 1st of all it Seems he misunderstood who fell into the the category of Human Beings.
Why? Because he believed the current "Science" and pagan myths about Ayrians.

Jesus dealt with this misunderstanding of WHO is a human being/other on many occasions, 1 in the parable of the good Samaritain.
He rejected the prejudice of the the day. including all in the human family no matter what race, sick or well, rich or poor.

and Genesis makes clear that we are all FAMILY every human is "made in the image of God".
It's 1 of reasons given why we do not kill. It's an attack on God by poxy.
And the opposite of what we are supposed to do, which is to Love each other.

The Darwinist, Malthusians, NAZIS, & communist nuts misunderstand who man is. (intentionally or unintentionally)
and the value of EACH human being.

morality is actually rational.

those who seek to keep using human on human predation as their way of life hate morality, and so invented atheism and darwinism, to justify themselves "allowing evolution to occur" with their evil.


bad people blowing smoke up their own asses hate morality, and by extension, the golden rule, the best example of morality.