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    Default Civilian Deaths Rise As Afghan Fight Intensifies

    What if collateral damage was YOU?!?!?!?!???!?!??!?!?

    KABUL, July 10 (Reuters)

    Hundreds of Afghans took to the streets of Mazar-i-Sharif on Saturday to protest against mounting civilian deaths, while five U.S. and NATO troops died in separate insurgent attacks on a bloody day of fighting across the country.

    Protesters chanted slogans against foreign forces and Afghan President Hamid Karzai after U.S. troops killed two civilians in a pre-dawn raid on Wednesday in the northern city’s outskirts.

    NATO also admitted killing six people with stray artillery on Thursday, a day after an airstrike accidently killed five Afghan soldiers.

    Insurgent gunmen also killed 11 Pakistani tribesmen near the eastern Afghan border, opening fire on their bus, while a bomb placed on a motorbike killed one civilian at a bazaar in the Taliban stronghold of Kandahar.

    Civilian casualties and friendly fire deaths among Afghan security forces have been a frequent irritant between Karzai and Western military forces during the nine-year war since the ousting of the Taliban in 2001.

    General David Petraeus, the U.S. general tapped by Washington to take over the Afghan war after his predecessor criticised senior administration officials, last week wrote to international troops to warn civilian deaths must be kept at a minimum....................

    Much More: http://www.canada.com/news/Civilian+...412/story.html

    Is killing of civilians now a sport?

    Sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post

    Is killing of civilians now a sport?
    no, but strapping bombs on motorcycles and driving them into crowds of civilians is the latest Afghan hobby......
    ...full immersion.....

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    Yeah its a shame that the Taliban isn't back in control, huh? Since they were so kind and gentle with the Afghan people.


    It only cost what about 50,000 civilian deaths when the Taliban razed Kabul to the ground taking control if I remember correctly.
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    Uh,,,,,,,,we are talking about Afghanistan, aren't we? I repeat, What if the collateral damage was YOU? How would you, cross that, your family feel about that?

    Jeesh, some idiots just can't help themselves.

    Whatever.



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    I'd be sad if my family were killed. I'd direct my anger at Terrorists; not forces trying their best to free us.

    PB gets horny every time any military service makes an honest mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    I'd be sad if my family were killed. I'd direct my anger at Terrorists; not forces trying their best to free us.

    PB gets horny every time any military service makes an honest mistake.
    You're a fuckin' liar, dimples, and have nothing other than your position as administrator on this board to back your dumb ass up. Just how many Afghani's were on those airplanes that went into the twin towers? And just how many Afghani's are interfering with our "freedoms"? Have you looked at the Patriot Act lately? The Afghani's didn't write that bullshit piece of legislation, don't you know!!!!!!!!!!

    I love the military, dimples. I spent more than half of my life in and around our military. What have you done lately for the defense of our nation and American values?



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    im completely confused , which is nothing new for me

    I thought civilian casualties were a part of war?

    as to how I would feel, I dont know until I am in that situation but isnt america putting our troops in more harms way just to avoid civilian deaths?
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    Quote Originally Posted by actsnoblemartin View Post
    im completely confused , which is nothing new for me

    I thought civilian casualties were a part of war?

    as to how I would feel, I dont know until I am in that situation but isnt america putting our troops in more harms way just to avoid civilian deaths?
    Marteen, let me refresh your memory. gwb, our ex-prez, sent our troops into Afghanistan to kill or capture as many Al Queda as possible and to take down the fundamentalist religion zealots, also known as the Taliban, in order to remove any physical base of operations for a re-emergence of the Al Queda. That was all accomplished in late 2001 and early 2002. Why in hell are we still there, killing thousands of civilians, getting many of our own troops killed or injured and spending billions of precious American dollars?

    Please, marteen, address these issues. Or, we can just bullshit and otherwise have an excellent time!!!!!!!!!!



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    we can do both.

    As to why we are still there

    I can think of three reasons.

    #1 We havent killed or captured bin laden yet

    #2 we are trying to eradicate the taliban

    #3 we are trying to rebuild afghanistan

    I have mixed feelings about all of this.

    Do I really want to spend 100 years rebuilding a country?

    But, look what happened the last time we said see ya to this place

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    Marteen, let me refresh your memory. gwb, our ex-prez, sent our troops into Afghanistan to kill or capture as many Al Queda as possible and to take down the fundamentalist religion zealots, also known as the Taliban, in order to remove any physical base of operations for a re-emergence of the Al Queda. That was all accomplished in late 2001 and early 2002. Why in hell are we still there, killing thousands of civilians, getting many of our own troops killed or injured and spending billions of precious American dollars?

    Please, marteen, address these issues. Or, we can just bullshit and otherwise have an excellent time!!!!!!!!!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    You're a fuckin' liar, dimples, and have nothing other than your position as administrator on this board to back your dumb ass up. Just how many Afghani's were on those airplanes that went into the twin towers? And just how many Afghani's are interfering with our "freedoms"? Have you looked at the Patriot Act lately? The Afghani's didn't write that bullshit piece of legislation, don't you know!!!!!!!!!!

    I love the military, dimples. I spent more than half of my life in and around our military. What have you done lately for the defense of our nation and American values?



    Psychoblues

    Hey Kiddo - The topic is "how would I feel if my family were killed in friendly-fire, etc".

    I replied saying "I'd be upset, but I would know the cause of my loss would rest squarely on the backs of terrorists - NOT forces working, even if they goof, to FREE my nation.

    I think you're full of shit - I think you've never served a DAY in the Military.



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    thats it, youre on my shit list asshole

    Fuck you, I think youre anti american, and anti veteran

    how you like that cock sucker?

    Go Fuck Yourself, you piece of shit

    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    Hey Kiddo - The topic is "how would I feel if my family were killed in friendly-fire, etc".

    I replied saying "I'd be upset, but I would know the cause of my loss would rest squarely on the backs of terrorists - NOT forces working, even if they goof, to FREE my nation.

    I think you're full of shit - I think you've never served a DAY in the Military.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoblues View Post
    Marteen, let me refresh your memory. gwb, our ex-prez, sent our troops into Afghanistan to kill or capture as many Al Queda as possible and to take down the fundamentalist religion zealots, also known as the Taliban, in order to remove any physical base of operations for a re-emergence of the Al Queda. That was all accomplished in late 2001 and early 2002. Why in hell are we still there, killing thousands of civilians, getting many of our own troops killed or injured and spending billions of precious American dollars?

    Please, marteen, address these issues. Or, we can just bullshit and otherwise have an excellent time!!!!!!!!!!



    Psychoblues
    Are you suggesting that our troops are being killed by Afghan civilians and not members of Al Queda or the Taliban? Do you really think it a good idea to leave before the job is complete?

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    Martin, that was completely uncalled for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Missileman View Post
    Are you suggesting that our troops are being killed by Afghan civilians and not members of Al Queda or the Taliban? Do you really think it a good idea to leave before the job is complete?
    What exactly do you mean by "the job is complete."?
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    Live as free people, yet without employing your freedom as a pretext for wickedness; but live at all times as servants of God.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revelarts View Post
    What exactly do you mean by "the job is complete."?
    What do you mean by "what exactly do you mean"? You've never finished a job before? How about "mission accomplished"...or maybe "objective achieved"...either of those easier to understand?

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