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    Quote Originally Posted by Nukeman View Post
    I asked first.... You should at least be able to give an simple answer to a elementary question..

    in other words put up or shut up!!!!
    Stuff like enslavement does not get forgotten in 3,4 or even 10 generations, look at the Jews for chrissakes! They are still bitching 2500 years later.

    Sure, you didn't personally enslave anybody but you know what they say about the sins of fathers..............

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    Quote Originally Posted by OCA View Post
    Stuff like enslavement does not get forgotten in 3,4 or even 10 generations, look at the Jews for chrissakes! They are still bitching 2500 years later.

    Sure, you didn't personally enslave anybody but you know what they say about the sins of fathers..............
    Fine than, I want me freaking molasses back!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nukeman View Post
    Fine than, I want me freaking molasses back!!!!!!
    Get in line, still waiting on royalties from the Romans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nukeman View Post
    Fine than, I want me freaking molasses back!!!!!!
    LOL! Seems to me that most of the Jews are remembering 70 years or so ago, but heh. I figure the Greeks are in a hell of a lot of trouble from the descendants of the Helots.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OCA View Post
    Stuff like enslavement does not get forgotten in 3,4 or even 10 generations, look at the Jews for chrissakes! They are still bitching 2500 years later.

    Sure, you didn't personally enslave anybody but you know what they say about the sins of fathers..............
    Yeah, they say the sins of the fathers should not be visited upon the sons. Should you be blamed for something your great grandfather did?
    When I die I'm sure to go to heaven, cause I spent my time in hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    LOL! Seems to me that most of the Jews are remembering 70 years or so ago, but heh. I figure the Greeks are in a hell of a lot of trouble from the descendants of the Helots.
    Key phrase is "I figure".

    Maybe you shouldn't try and figure too much?

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    im confused, remember the past is whining

    so the rwandans, jews,gypsies, anyone that genocide was committed against cant honor their ancestors suffering?
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    Quote Originally Posted by actsnoblemartin View Post
    im confused, remember the past is whining

    so the rwandans, jews,gypsies, anyone that genocide was committed against cant honor their ancestors suffering?
    Many remember the past, often the catalyst for moving to somewhere else. Blacks in US moved, but not by choice. It wasn't just the 'white man' that forced the move, but tribal enemies and those that would exploit them. So yes, black history is different than others currently in this country.

    However, so have been the wars and legislation in US resulting from slavery.

    Today, actually about 30 years ago or so the time for whining about reparations was past. Not something that should happen, though I'd count nothing out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    It wasn't just the 'white man' that forced the move, but tribal enemies and those that would exploit them.
    Ahh yes, the stock answer to soothe feelings of guilt........kind of like preperation h on hemmorhoids.

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    im sorry, i dont get it

    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Many remember the past, often the catalyst for moving to somewhere else. Blacks in US moved, but not by choice. It wasn't just the 'white man' that forced the move, but tribal enemies and those that would exploit them. So yes, black history is different than others currently in this country.

    However, so have been the wars and legislation in US resulting from slavery.

    Today, actually about 30 years ago or so the time for whining about reparations was past. Not something that should happen, though I'd count nothing out.
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    I've reopened this thread after cleaning up a bit. Carry on, but try to stay on topic.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    I've reopened this thread after cleaning up a bit. Carry on, but try to stay on topic.
    Thanks for the help Kathy. No the children can play without disturbing the adults


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    Quote Originally Posted by red states rule View Post
    Thanks for the help Kathy. No the children can play without disturbing the adults
    Behavior management is the hardest part of the job.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OCA View Post
    Ahh yes, the stock answer to soothe feelings of guilt........kind of like preperation h on hemmorhoids.
    How do you figure???? Do you actually deny the FACT that most slave traders bringing black to the US actually acquired them from other tribes????

    The slave traders didn't do a whole lot of work in capturing the slaves they traded with the coastal tribes for other tribes taken in small wars..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nukeman View Post
    How do you figure???? Do you actually deny the FACT that most slave traders bringing black to the US actually acquired them from other tribes????

    The slave traders didn't do a whole lot of work in capturing the slaves they traded with the coastal tribes for other tribes taken in small wars..
    As I mentioned with some snark the Greeks were really into slavery, not just Sparta, they just get discussed more than others. Athens especially gets short shift on the bad parts of behavior, thanks to democracy.

    In the Middle Ages, many of our White European ancestors were held in slavery. We Irish know all about the Spanish, every bit as much as the Mexicans.

    It was the Africans bad luck that the workings of slavery changed with the Age of Exploration. Instead of tribes just exploiting those captured by use of labor and rape, they could gain wealth through the sale of those captured.

    In any case, there are no 'peoples' hands free from that stain. Neither are there ways to atone for something not done to or by those alive.


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