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    Default AZ court hearing SB 1070 legal challenges today

    My cousin's husband, who is an immigration attorney, is among those presenting legal briefs challenging SB 1070 today in a court in Phoenix.

    http://www.azcentral.com/news/articl...epartment.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    My cousin's husband, who is an immigration attorney, is among those presenting legal briefs challenging SB 1070 today in a court in Phoenix.

    http://www.azcentral.com/news/articl...epartment.html
    Exactly what is your problem with the bill?????

    It is very close to the Federal law......

    Do you simply disagree with the state taking matters into it's own hands?

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    Your cousin's husband who is an attorney will lose in a bad way. Maybe he's looking for publicity?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    My cousin's husband, who is an immigration attorney, is among those presenting legal briefs challenging SB 1070 today in a court in Phoenix.

    http://www.azcentral.com/news/articl...epartment.html
    Nothing personal, but I hope he loses. Obama and Holder need to be put in their place by the judge. Probably one of their judges though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    My cousin's husband, who is an immigration attorney, is among those presenting legal briefs challenging SB 1070 today in a court in Phoenix.

    http://www.azcentral.com/news/articl...epartment.html
    I just hope my tax dollars aren't paying your cousin-in-law's salary for defending these foreign criminals who broke into my country like a thief in the night.

    Hows this for an illegal alien deterent?

    Any Illegal Alien who gets caught here gets a big IA branded on their right cheek with a hot iron and taken to the nearest Port of Entry and released.

    The second time they get caught they get a big IA branded on their left cheek with a hot iron and taken to the nearest Port of Entry and released.

    A third time offender will be considered incorrigible and fed alive to the carnivores in one of our nations many zoos...Illegal alien problem solved.

    The American taxpayers are spared most of the burden of expenses for deportation, incarceration, or death penalty and burial expenses.
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    Not sure that they have any sort of change at winning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    My cousin's husband, who is an immigration attorney, is among those presenting legal briefs challenging SB 1070 today in a court in Phoenix.

    http://www.azcentral.com/news/articl...epartment.html
    Why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    My cousin's husband, who is an immigration attorney, is among those presenting legal briefs challenging SB 1070 today in a court in Phoenix.

    http://www.azcentral.com/news/articl...epartment.html
    I hope he fails.............miserably! Anyone who stands up for criminals who flaunt their crimes in the face of the American people they are bankrupting, deserves to fail.
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    The way I look at it is if any illegal gets caught here he or she should be enlisted into a branch of our armed forces and sent to fight in Iraq and Afghanstan. Since we're footing the bill for them anyway so they may as well pay us back with their service to our country....... Can you envision the blanket parties?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    My cousin's husband, who is an immigration attorney, is among those presenting legal briefs challenging SB 1070 today in a court in Phoenix.

    http://www.azcentral.com/news/articl...epartment.html


    That is so typical....... And why doesn't this come as a surprise to me? Tell me something Gabs, how did you think people would react to that statement? And since you always feel the need to blurt out things such as that, you are doomed to receive the blacklash that is aimed and lands on you. Sometimes it pays to keep ones thoughts to themselves. But then, it's giving you attention. Maybe that is what you seek. The attention the shock factor affords you. Who knows?
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    Quote Originally Posted by country View Post
    Nothing personal, but I hope he loses. Obama and Holder need to be put in their place by the judge. Probably one of their judges though.
    Oh, you didn't read the article? The judge has been cutting off the federal lawyers

    Omar Jadwat, an attorney representing the ACLU, had just begun to say why he believed SB 1070 was unconstitutional and should be enjoined, when Bolton cut him off.

    "I'm sorry to interrupt you after your second sentence," she said.

    But she wanted to make it clear that SB 1070 was not a statute in itself, but rather an "enactment" by the Legislature that merged new laws with old laws and amended laws, all dealing with immigration.

    "Shouldn't we be talking about it section by section and provision by provision?" she asked. "Because I'm not going to enjoin SB 1070."

    Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articl...#ixzz0uWApccmU
    I actually like this judge, she's not taking any of the idiotic crap that goes on in some court cases.
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    The suit that my cousin's husband has helped file does not challenge SB 1070 itself. Only challenges how it is enforced.
    Currently, law enforcement is allowed to question people based on their perception of who might be an illegal immigrant. Factors could include language spoken, how the person is dressed and where their vehicle is registered.
    If his challenge is upheld, law enforcement will be required to question the legal status of everyone. Otherwise, enforcement would be discriminatory and thus illegal.
    A precedent is in current state border crossings between Texas and New Mexico and NM/Arizona. There is a checkpoint where they ask everyone if they are U.S. citizens.

    I certainly hope Arizona has enough in its state treasury to defend the dozen or more challenges now on tap for SB 1070. The state is currently considering requesting federal aid to defend itself. Which I hope the Obama administration would laugh heartily at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    The suit that my cousin's husband has helped file does not challenge SB 1070 itself. Only challenges how it is enforced.
    Currently, law enforcement is allowed to question people based on their perception of who might be an illegal immigrant. Factors could include language spoken, how the person is dressed and where their vehicle is registered.
    If his challenge is upheld, law enforcement will be required to question the legal status of everyone. Otherwise, enforcement would be discriminatory and thus illegal.
    A precedent is in current state border crossings between Texas and New Mexico and NM/Arizona. There is a checkpoint where they ask everyone if they are U.S. citizens.

    I certainly hope Arizona has enough in its state treasury to defend the dozen or more challenges now on tap for SB 1070. The state is currently considering requesting federal aid to defend itself. Which I hope the Obama administration would laugh heartily at.
    So, if they change the law to say that EVERYONE is questioned, you would have no problem with it???

    I could agree with that change. It's fair and gets rid of any assumptions of racial profilling

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    The suit that my cousin's husband has helped file does not challenge SB 1070 itself. Only challenges how it is enforced.
    Currently, law enforcement is allowed to question people based on their perception of who might be an illegal immigrant. Factors could include language spoken, how the person is dressed and where their vehicle is registered.
    If his challenge is upheld, law enforcement will be required to question the legal status of everyone. Otherwise, enforcement would be discriminatory and thus illegal.
    A precedent is in current state border crossings between Texas and New Mexico and NM/Arizona. There is a checkpoint where they ask everyone if they are U.S. citizens.

    I certainly hope Arizona has enough in its state treasury to defend the dozen or more challenges now on tap for SB 1070. The state is currently considering requesting federal aid to defend itself. Which I hope the Obama administration would laugh heartily at.
    No you don't, quit lying. You pray they don't have the funds for the defense.

    As to your lawyer, what he's saying is, "Well, we can't actually find anything particularly wrong with the law, and it within the constitutional standards and all, but we're gonna sandbag it anyhow."
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