Nine Lies Of Global Warming

[stephanie]

I believe there is an agenda behind GW..

And it's not going to be pretty for us, who are not rich elitists...

Welcome to Socialism.....

[Gaffer]

Great thread, good points made on both sides.

I think algores agenda is about controling the US and the world. The only ones that can really put up an opposition to him are the big corps and those with their own agenda's. All we can do is sit back and watch them battle it out. In the meantime the weather will do what it wants and there's nothing we can do about it.

[Fountainhead]

While I don't believe there's an agenda I do believe there's a need for scepticism. I feel uneasy about ideology from either the right or the left driving any aspect of this debate. I want to read the science (explained for a non-scientific layman like me) and I want to read the policy responses from govt and opposition so I can decide where my support goes.

I also need to know the vested interests behind each side.

Science should be driving this bus. Not opinion. Not politics. Not $$.

What passes for "science" today is an MTV 15 second sound-byte of some dis-jointed statistical study that is unproven and untested.

What really frightens me (in a Joseph Mengele, NAZI kind of way) is to hear AlGor say such nonsense as "the debate is over" ... "the science is in". What he really means to say is ... "stop arguing with me, BITCH ! you deserve to be slapped-around"

[Gaffer]

Science should be driving this bus. Not opinion. Not politics. Not $$.

What passes for "science" today is an MTV 15 second sound-byte of some dis-jointed statistical study that is unproven and untested.

What really frightens me (in a Joseph Mengele, NAZI kind of way) is to hear AlGor say such nonsense as "the debate is over" ... "the science is in". What he really means to say is ... "stop arguing with me, BITCH ! you deserve to be slapped-around"

You get that feeling too huh? That's exactly how I see him too.

[Fountainhead]

You get that feeling too huh? That's exactly how I see him too.

Algork is a classic closet case.

All meek and milk-toasty on the outside, speaking slowly in hushed tones ... but behind closed doors ... a real rage-aholic. Kicken the dog and whatnot

[diuretic]

I believe there is an agenda behind GW..

And it's not going to be pretty for us, who are not rich elitists...

Welcome to Socialism.....

I don't think socialism is behind GWB so no need to worry about that aspect. I mean socialism is completely at odds with GWB. More likely a sort of Straussian elitism as approved by the Neocons.

[diuretic]

Science should be driving this bus. Not opinion. Not politics. Not $$.

What passes for "science" today is an MTV 15 second sound-byte of some dis-jointed statistical study that is unproven and untested.

What really frightens me (in a Joseph Mengele, NAZI kind of way) is to hear AlGor say such nonsense as "the debate is over" ... "the science is in". What he really means to say is ... "stop arguing with me, BITCH ! you deserve to be slapped-around"

I haven't seen his film and - I'm not going to see it either. I wouldn't bother to see one produced by his opponents either. I agree with you, no politics, no bucks, no opinions. Problem is that there are vested interests on both sides of this debate.

1. Polluting corporations don't want to go out of business.
2. Unions with members in polluting industries don't want to lose members by seeing those industries going out of business.
3. Politicians - of the usual mainstream persuasions - who want to court polluting businesses and won't really make an effort to address climate change
4. Ideological greenies who want to see us subsistance farming in loin cloths because they're just fucking nutters.
5. Comfortably off, middle-class SUV owning well-travelled professionals who want to lecture me about my carbon footprint (kiss my carbon arse) and then jaunt around the world at the front of the plane. Fuck them too.

Give me the science so I can understand it (that'll keep them busy) and then let me see some practical ideas - practical, not ideological bullshit or playing up to the big boys - that will help us maintain our way of life and yet not threaten the environment.

[Pale Rider]

Science should be driving this bus. Not opinion. Not politics. Not $$.

What passes for "science" today is an MTV 15 second sound-byte of some dis-jointed statistical study that is unproven and untested.

What really frightens me (in a Joseph Mengele, NAZI kind of way) is to hear AlGor say such nonsense as "the debate is over" ... "the science is in". What he really means to say is ... "stop arguing with me, BITCH ! you deserve to be slapped-around"

He's still pissed off about losing the election, and he's about creating as much turmoil as possible for this administration.

There's as much "scientific evidence" that global warming is a fallacy as there is not. The earth has gone through climactic changes all on it's own for millennia. I think it's arrogant of man to think he's changing it with his presence.

[Hobbit]

He's still pissed off about losing the election, and he's about creating as much turmoil as possible for this administration.

There's as much "scientific evidence" that global warming is a fallacy as there is not. The earth has gone through climactic changes all on it's own for millennia. I think it's arrogant of man to think he's changing it with his presence.

Here's a tidbit I found out (on the radio, so no link). There's a famous chart the global warming crowd likes to throw out showing gradually rising CO2 levels over the past century. What they don't show you is the comparison graph that came from the SAME research paper that shows the human output of CO2. In the early years of the Great Depression, manmade CO2 dropped sharply by about 30%. This drop didn't change the atmospheric CO2 concentration by even 1 ppm. If we don't even affect CO2 levels...

[Pale Rider]

Here's a tidbit I found out (on the radio, so no link). There's a famous chart the global warming crowd likes to throw out showing gradually rising CO2 levels over the past century. What they don't show you is the comparison graph that came from the SAME research paper that shows the human output of CO2. In the early years of the Great Depression, manmade CO2 dropped sharply by about 30%. This drop didn't change the atmospheric CO2 concentration by even 1 ppm. If we don't even affect CO2 levels...

And another little tidbit, the earth's average temperature hasn't changed in the last eight years.

[Fountainhead]

He's still pissed off about losing the election, and he's about creating as much turmoil as possible for this administration.

There's as much "scientific evidence" that global warming is a fallacy as there is not. The earth has gone through climactic changes all on it's own for millennia. I think it's arrogant of man to think he's changing it with his presence.

Right on ! It is arrogant of man to think that "it's all about MEEEEEEEEEE"

I think it is radio host Tammy Bruce who terms this "malignant narcissm" ... or is it Laura Ingraham ? no matter. It is a brilliant concept about those who would cannonize themselves as gods

I find it ironic that the believers in Global Warming are the same people who use the term "flyover country" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flyover_country

If their drug-addled brains would operate clearly for a moment, they would realize just how much surface of this planet is completely untouched by mankind ! But alas, they ONLY envision the world that they can see from a traffic-clogged I-405. Never for ONE second do they consider that nearly 3/4 of the globes surface is covered by H20 ... WATER ... oceans ... a ridiculously MASSIVE amount of the surface area of this beautiful globe.

Man has an impact, yes. But the impact has to be put into the proper perspective of land/sea area and parts per billion.

But man is NOT NOW, nor ever has been ... the center of the universe ... let alone the solar system.