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    Quote Originally Posted by Pale Rider View Post
    Seriously... I'm not joking... "everybody pack a gun.... if....IF... you can LEGALLY."

    What happened to the crime rate down there after you banned guns? Wait... I know... crime when up, dramatically.
    I think the race problems are so bad in America that even having hillbillies like you shooting rappers down on a daily basis is not going to put a dent in it.

    My personal feeling is that it's a hopeless situation. No solution. The blacks have fallen too far to pick them up, and you really can't kill them all, and even with their high crime rate they won't kill themselves off either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuc View Post
    I think the race problems are so bad in America that even having hillbillies like you shooting rappers down on a daily basis is not going to put a dent in it.

    My personal feeling is that it's a hopeless situation. No solution. The blacks have fallen too far to pick them up, and you really can't kill them all, and even with their high crime rate they won't kill themselves off either.
    Actually, I dont think the race problems are as bad as the liberals and the media (I know Im repeating myself) like to pretend.

    Nothing is hopeless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuc View Post
    I think the race problems are so bad in America that even having hillbillies like you shooting rappers down on a daily basis is not going to put a dent in it.

    My personal feeling is that it's a hopeless situation. No solution. The blacks have fallen too far to pick them up, and you really can't kill them all, and even with their high crime rate they won't kill themselves off either.
    You could be right about the blacks, but don't discount me. Given the opportunity, I could make a real dent...

    Seriously though, just like the muslims, it's going to take the "good" blacks to reign in the "bad" blacks, and it'll take the "good" muslims, if there is such a thing, to reign in the bad ones.

    But just to be clear, disarming the citizens isn't the answer either. You guys are learning that the hard way. I'm surprized there isn't a movement down there to get your guns back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pale Rider View Post

    But just to be clear, disarming the citizens isn't the answer either. You guys are learning that the hard way. I'm surprized there isn't a movement down there to get your guns back.
    The biggest serial killing before last month's VA one was in Tasmania. After that the population got disgusted with guns and wanted strong controls. I know you're thinking "if the victims had been armed.....blah blah" but I'm just reporting what happened. That was before my time here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuc View Post
    The biggest serial killing before last month's VA one was in Tasmania. After that the population got disgusted with guns and wanted strong controls. I know you're thinking "if the victims had been armed.....blah blah" but I'm just reporting what happened. That was before my time here.
    Well, "if the victims had been armed, blah, blah, blah," is a valid arguement. And VA Tech wasn't a "serial killing." It was more of a "mass murder."

    I'm still surprized that there isn't a movement down there to get your gun rights back. You all should know by now that the disarming of your country was a total failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pale Rider View Post
    Well, "if the victims had been armed, blah, blah, blah," is a valid arguement. And VA Tech wasn't a "serial killing." It was more of a "mass murder."

    I'm still surprized that there isn't a movement down there to get your gun rights back. You all should know by now that the disarming of your country was a total failure.
    Where i live a stolen bicycle gets an article in the newspaper. Crime is low here. We don't need to pack guns to shoot down the occasional bicycle thief.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pale Rider View Post
    They outlawed guns down there. Won't work for me. But I plan on taking a vacation there someday. I want to ride that train from coast to coast.

    I'm usually pack'n. Try anything funny with me and I'll make a canoe out of your skull. That's my answer.
    Guns aren't outlawed here. Yes, we do have restrictions (like the US it's state law which covers firearms) but they're not outlawed.

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    Yeah, guns are legal here, the population is just not stupid enough to use them the way Americans do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pale Rider View Post
    Seriously... I'm not joking... "everybody pack a gun.... if....IF... you can LEGALLY."

    What happened to the crime rate down there after you banned guns? Wait... I know... crime went up, dramatically.



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    Trying to link gun control with crime rates is a bit silly. There are all sorts of variables involved in the production of crime and the issue of gun control is separate from crime causation. If Keith Tidswell is trying to argue a causation from gun control to an alleged escalation of crime I wish him well but he's drawing a long bow (also controlled - little pun there). You have to analyse crimes closely to work out what's going on and we have experts for that - http://www.aic.gov.au - here's a little view - http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/f...ded_crime.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pale Rider View Post
    Well, "if the victims had been armed, blah, blah, blah," is a valid arguement. And VA Tech wasn't a "serial killing." It was more of a "mass murder."

    I'm still surprized that there isn't a movement down there to get your gun rights back. You all should know by now that the disarming of your country was a total failure.
    It's not a valid argument. You have military training right? You would be able to look after yourself okay, but what about people who have hadn't had that sort of training or experience?

    On the buybacks. Both were reflexive reactions by our federal government. Now I'm trying to be as objective as possible here but I need to point out that we have a Prime Minister who is supposed to be a conservative but is in fact not. Not in the classic, Burkean sense anyway. He's actually a populist. After Port Arthur he devised a really, really stupid policy of buyback. The only good was that in Tasmania they tightened up their gun control laws. The rest of it was just fluff to make the population feel safer. Same for the handgun buyback, one incident - one incident - and that was it, off he went again on another stupid, stupid policy jaunt.

    We haven't been "disarmed". We just have more firearms control than most of the States in the US. And we're not fussed about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuc View Post
    Yeah, guns are legal here, the population is just not stupid enough to use them the way Americans do.
    I disagree Nuc. If Americans misused their firearms you'd see a lot more tragedies than you do now. The average firearm owner isn't irresponsible. Just like here, we emphasise safe and proper use by responsible owners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuc View Post
    Blacks create the most low level crime.

    Whites have the highest incidence of white collar crime.

    Seems like mass crimes against humanity are not done as much by blacks as by whites and Asians.

    Then you have atrocities of the religious missionary type which are mainly done by Christians and Muslims of all races.

    So there are several answers to your question but some of them are not the ones you are looking for.
    But your answer here is more rhetoric than fact. I think that by saying whites commit "crimes against humanity" you're stretching the definition of "crime" to places it shouldn't go... "crime" means personal-level violence and fraud that makes everyday society an ugly place. War is ugly, too, but that's a different thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Lincoln View Post
    http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives...ruth_of_in.php

    In the 111,590 cases in which the victim of rape or sexual assault was white, 44.5 percent of the offenders were white, and 33.6 percent of the offenders were black. In the 36,620 cases in which the victim of rape or sexual assault was black, 100 percent of the offenders were black, and 0.0 percent of the offenders were white.

    Interesting. Because to hear the media tell it, whites are constantly raping black women, while black males are never doing anything to white women but carrying their groceries across the street.
    I don't know Hugh but the first six local stories on the news the other night involved blacks commiting violence around the Houston area, the next four were about latinos doing the same. A lot of the time the victims of this proud, brave race are elderly white females. There are sections of Houston that the police and fire department aren't interested in going to.......they all just happen to be overwhelmingly populated by black people......many are those wonderful "victims" of Katrina still sucking off of the government tits.

    So I guess the answer to "what race is causing the most problems?" would have to be white elderly people because they go around being easy targets forcing minority races to prey on them. If they weren't so frail and weak maybe the temptation for strong, proud black and brown men and women wouldn't be so great and they would go out and actually try to earn an honest living........ahh......never mind, just kidding.....as pro atheletes with more money than God have proven, "it's a black thang".
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    The solution to the problem with the lopsidedness of the criminal population is going to have to come from within. Current black culture hates white people, especially if they have money, glorifies crime and violence, objectifies women, and villifies success. It's going to take black people denouncing black culture to bring about change. I believe it can happen, but, as a white man, I think there are many other problems I could try to address and have it not be an excercise in futility. I think that if there were more Bill Cosby's and fewer Jesse Jacksons, we'd see racial animosity drop significantly.

    As for gun control, Washington D.C. has, for all intents and purposes, a full-blown ban on all firearms. Since the ban went into effect, the southeastern side of town has become so dangerous that police offer armed escort to a safer area for any white person seen in that sector. It also has the highest murder rate in the country. The law was overturned by a federal court, but still remains in place, pending appeal to the Supreme Court. Gun control activists say it's going to turn D.C. into the wild west, speaking as if it isn't worse than that already. I'd rather be at the OK Corrall than southeastern D.C. Other factors have been looked into for the increase in crime in D.C., but none of them have been found to have enough of an impact to account for the rise, and many of them have no way to account for the constant rise in crime since the gun ban went into effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuc View Post
    Where i live a stolen bicycle gets an article in the newspaper. Crime is low here. We don't need to pack guns to shoot down the occasional bicycle thief.
    Really.... tell me... where is it that they DO gun down bicycle theaves?

    And it doesn't appear your contrymen agree with you.....

    SOME POLLS TAKEN BEFORE PORT ARTHUR MASSACRE

    March 3, 1994: Channel 7 offered a phone poll of "Australia's Most Wanted" viewers.

    Q: Should a citizen have the right to self-defense with a firearm when attacked at home by an intruder?
    A: 13,414 ,YES..........315,NO..........97% in favour

    March 24-25, 1994: The Sun Herald-Sun asked

    Q: Should the Government ban keeping guns in homes?
    A; 1427,NO..........51,YES..........96.5% against.

    April 6, 1995: The Herald-Sun asked Victorians

    Q: Do you think (Victorian) gun laws are tough enough?
    A: 89% said YES.
    http://home.overflow.net.au/~nedwood/guns.html
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