Hey Noir...where were you today? Missed you around here for a few hours.
What do you think of all the riots in London by the students? Do you think it's appropriate?
Hey Noir...where were you today? Missed you around here for a few hours.
What do you think of all the riots in London by the students? Do you think it's appropriate?
If the freedom of speech is taken away
then dumb and silent we may be led,
like sheep to the slaughter.
George Washington (1732-1799) First President of the USA.
How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin.
Ronald Reagan
Yep!!!
Looked up the 10 most expensive colleges in the US .... pretty interesting that they have all had around 50% increases in the last seven years.
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If the freedom of speech is taken away
then dumb and silent we may be led,
like sheep to the slaughter.
George Washington (1732-1799) First President of the USA.
Nope, wasn't there, but if I had of been I would of spent it arguing with the protestors, not taking part in the protest.
Though I was able to send a few Facebook comments to people who I know that went or supported the protest. Surprisingly they didn't want to get into the details concerning public spending >,>
Last edited by Noir; 11-10-2010 at 07:30 PM.
If you also agree that an animals suffering should be avoided rather than encouraged, consider what steps you can take.
If the freedom of speech is taken away
then dumb and silent we may be led,
like sheep to the slaughter.
George Washington (1732-1799) First President of the USA.
Indeed, they were stupid. The whole thing was stupid. I'd say the vast majority they were there either had no, or very little, political understanding or awareness. A mob of morons, who will no doubt be out this weekend spending money they don't have on getting drunk >,>
If you also agree that an animals suffering should be avoided rather than encouraged, consider what steps you can take.
Sad.
If the freedom of speech is taken away
then dumb and silent we may be led,
like sheep to the slaughter.
George Washington (1732-1799) First President of the USA.
There is no money in the pot to repair the damage because those who caused the damage had already sucked the pot dry
It is amazing to see so many people who EXPECT the government to pay for whatever the hell they want in life
Libs are getting their wish. America is becoming more like Europe everyday
How do you tell a communist? Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin.
Ronald Reagan
I'm fairness, and while this is certainly no excuse for what happened, just over ten years ago all Uni education was free, then it changed (after allot of protests) to cost just over £3000 ($4800) per year (most courses being 3 or 4 years) now they plan to have that risen by 300% to around £9000 per year (about $14,000) meaning a standard degree will cost a minimum of £27,000 ($42,000) when ten years ago it was free.
So it's not difficult to see how people with a limited political grasp and understanding can look at those numbers and feel like they are being hard done by in a time when students are leaving with degrees and not being able to get jobs in the UK market.
If you also agree that an animals suffering should be avoided rather than encouraged, consider what steps you can take.
Why aren't the kids educated enough to realize they are being stupid?
“… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.
“… the greatest detractor from high performance is fear: fear that you are not prepared, fear that you are in over your head, fear that you are not worthy, and ultimately, fear of failure. If you can eliminate that fear—not through arrogance or just wishing difficulties away, but through hard work and preparation—you will put yourself in an incredibly powerful position to take on the challenges you face" - Pete Carroll.
So, you mean they wanted the people who work for a living to continue paying for them to go to school ... instead of getting a job and paying for it themselves. What a concept.....take as many free rides as you can and then get pissed off when the free rides stop and cause so much damage that some other entitlement is not funded .... and that pisses off a different category of people who will riot ..... do you see the trend of what happens when people have entitlements that are no longer able to be funded?
And, just as a side note ... I'll bet there are more people working in the world without degrees than those that have a degree ... so, not havng a degree will not automatically keep one from getting a job. Participating in a protest and getting arrested and creating a rap sheet can do more damage to a resume than not having a degree.
People need to grow up and think about the harm they are doing by having these temper tantrums.
If the freedom of speech is taken away
then dumb and silent we may be led,
like sheep to the slaughter.
George Washington (1732-1799) First President of the USA.
If the freedom of speech is taken away
then dumb and silent we may be led,
like sheep to the slaughter.
George Washington (1732-1799) First President of the USA.
Actually I think Noir has this nailed. Not so many years ago, certainly in the time of his grandparents, the Brits were not so different than us, meaning they paid their own way. Sure during the Progressive era, they did more programs than us, but in general they weren't so very different. Then came the end of WWII.
It changed. They went the way of Germany and Japan, yes the 'losers' of the war, but followed their 19th C examples. (Bismarck and Meiji Restoration). For the most part, the entire European continent did. Not so much the US, where we went towards was only regarding the 'poor.'
Today? Europe has at least 3 generations that think that's the norm and now they're changing the rules. Meanwhile, the US government is trying to go where Europe already trod and hasn't worked. Go figure.
For all the ballyhoo about the tea parties, my guess is Europe will be facing much worse, not a good example to follow. Very difficult to take away 'what we're entitled to.'
"The government is a child that has found their parents credit card, and spends knowing that they never have to reconcile the bill with their own money"-Shannon Churchill