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    Default Fred Phelps says VT massacre was "God's wrath"

    "We wish the 33 massacre victims were 33,000"

    And to think that there are people who follow and support this truly sick man.

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0e0_1178304529

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    There have been many refutations of Fred Phelps by the Christians on this site, and almost all Christian organizations worldwide. He's a cultist and does not represent Christian values.

    On the other hand, such refutations about Islamic terrorists from "moderate Muslims" are few and far between.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5stringJeff View Post
    There have been many refutations of Fred Phelps by the Christians on this site, and almost all Christian organizations worldwide. He's a cultist and does not represent Christian values.

    On the other hand, such refutations about Islamic terrorists from "moderate Muslims" are few and far between.
    Why do I get the feeling there may have been an intent to smear Fred Thompson with the title? Everyone knows Phelps is whacked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5stringJeff View Post
    There have been many refutations of Fred Phelps by the Christians on this site, and almost all Christian organizations worldwide. He's a cultist and does not represent Christian values.

    On the other hand, such refutations about Islamic terrorists from "moderate Muslims" are few and far between.
    So are refutations from Christians of abortion center bombers.
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    Science wants to explain things and understand why they happen. Creationists want to use science to justify their own causes.

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    There have been many refutations of Fred Phelps by the Christians on this site, and almost all Christian organizations worldwide. He's a cultist and does not represent Christian values.
    Actually, from the comments I've seen concerning god and homosexuality, most of the "Christians" on here are no better than Phelps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5stringJeff View Post
    There have been many refutations of Fred Phelps by the Christians on this site, and almost all Christian organizations worldwide. He's a cultist and does not represent Christian values.

    On the other hand, such refutations about Islamic terrorists from "moderate Muslims" are few and far between.

    Right on the money.

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    phelps is not a christian, he's a cultist. And the only ones lumping him in with christians are the libs.
    When I die I'm sure to go to heaven, cause I spent my time in hell.

    You get more with a kind word and a two by four, than you do with just a kind word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hagbard Celine View Post
    So are refutations from Christians of abortion center bombers.
    Get real. Read the news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    phelps is not a christian, he's a cultist. And the only ones lumping him in with christians are the libs.
    right. All sorts of mainline Christians have not only condemned, but have help to prevent his disruptions at funerals and other demonstrations.

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    Fred was right about one thing though. It was God's wrath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockmail View Post
    It was God's wrath.
    Bullshit! Only someone seriously mentally deranged would think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obama08 View Post
    Actually, from the comments I've seen concerning god and homosexuality, most of the "Christians" on here are no better than Phelps.
    Then you have some literacy issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5stringJeff View Post
    There have been many refutations of Fred Phelps by the Christians on this site, and almost all Christian organizations worldwide. He's a cultist and does not represent Christian values.

    On the other hand, such refutations about Islamic terrorists from "moderate Muslims" are few and far between.
    Sounds like you are only seeing what you want to see. I haven't heard about Christian organizations condemning Fred Phelps. Care to share some links?

    But I have heard lots of Muslims condemning terrorism. I'll post some for you.

    http://www.cair-net.org/crisiscenter/html/cair_ad.html

    http://www.islamicity.com/articles/A...ref=AM0109-335

    http://www.islam-democracy.org/terrorism_statement.asp

    http://www.themodernreligion.com/ter...istortion.html

    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/nation..._islam22.shtml

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/w...ds/5111092.stm

    http://www.muslimnews.co.uk/news/news.php?article=1062

    http://muslim-canada.org/news09112001.html

    http://www.unc.edu/~kurzman/terror.htm

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/1544955.stm

    http://www.muhajabah.com/otherscondemn.php

    Quote Originally Posted by Kathianne View Post
    Why do I get the feeling there may have been an intent to smear Fred Thompson with the title? Everyone knows Phelps is whacked.
    How does the title have anything to do with Fred Thompson?

    Do you get the feeling it's smearing Fred Flinstone too?
    "Wars are poor chisels for carving out peaceful tomorrows"
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    I edited the title so that it was correctly represented.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockmail View Post
    Fred was right about one thing though. It was God's wrath.
    Nah, it was a whacked out Korean's wrath, and Koreans only count as God when you're playing Starcraft.

    Actually, I'm aware of a growing movement in the Muslim community to condemn terrorists, and I really hope these people help us in the fight. However, I also hear and see a lot of Muslims support terrorists and call people like Osama 'heroes.' I also see a lot of the Muslims who do oppose terrorism getting death threats. There is even a former member of the Dutch parliment who is from Africa (I think Somalia) and is Muslim. She stands up to such horrors as terrorism and Sharia law. When Theo Van Gogh was killed, a note was stuck to his chest with a knife, and it basically told her she was next. Her Dutch citizenship was revoked and she is currently seeking Asylum in the U.S. There may be a large percentage of Muslims who oppose terrorism and Sharia law, but there are more than enough radicals to silence them.

    The Christian community, on the other hand, doesn't have much to fear from various sects in most places (the Protestant/Catholic divide in Ireland being an exception). Fred Phelps isn't going to kill me because I think gays are sinners like the rest of us and, like the rest of us, can find God's grace.
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    - This 'poem' was bought and paid for with $2,250 of YOUR money.

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