The Police State

[Pagan]

US Government Censors 70 Websites

"My domain has been seized without any previous complaint or notice from any court!” the owner of Torrent-Finder explained TorrentFreak, “I firstly had DNS downtime. While I was contacting GoDaddy I noticed the DNS had changed. Godaddy had no idea what was going on and until now they do not understand the situation and they say it was totally from ICANN."

"This is equivalent to having your house seized for pointing out to someone you can buy weed in the college district"

"A war is brewing. If you think body scanners, sexual assault patdowns, censorship laws, and the seizure of property without even a notice are the end, you're sadly mistaken.

It's only the beginning."

[SassyLady]

US Government Censors 70 Websites

"My domain has been seized without any previous complaint or notice from any court!” the owner of Torrent-Finder explained TorrentFreak, “I firstly had DNS downtime. While I was contacting GoDaddy I noticed the DNS had changed. Godaddy had no idea what was going on and until now they do not understand the situation and they say it was totally from ICANN."

"This is equivalent to having your house seized for pointing out to someone you can buy weed in the college district"

"A war is brewing. If you think body scanners, sexual assault patdowns, censorship laws, and the seizure of property without even a notice are the end, you're sadly mistaken.

It's only the beginning."

Is this the first shot heard around the world?????

[NightTrain]

I would assume that it has something to do with the fact that torrent sites are sharing copyrighted material, primarily movies.

I don't know what the percentage is, but I'm sure the content has to be 99% illegal due to copyright violations.

I can't say that I haven't grabbed a LOT of stuff from torrents, it's fast and I can utilize the 12 meg pipe that I have. I downloaded the Team America : World Police movie in about 8 minutes on one of them.

[Gaffer]

The interesting part is who's doing the seizing. ICE. Now what is ICE doing seizing websites that have nothing to do with illegal aliens?

[Mr. P]

The interesting part is who's doing the seizing. ICE. Now what is ICE doing seizing websites that have nothing to do with illegal aliens?

Well they gotta have something to do cuz they sure ain't interested in illegals.

[fj1200]

"My domain has been seized without any previous complaint or notice from any court!” the owner of Torrent-Finder explained TorrentFreak, “I firstly had DNS downtime. While I was contacting GoDaddy I noticed the DNS had changed. Godaddy had no idea what was going on and until now they do not understand the situation and they say it was totally from ICANN."

"This is equivalent to having your house seized for pointing out to someone you can buy weed in the college district"

"A war is brewing. If you think body scanners, sexual assault patdowns, censorship laws, and the seizure of property without even a notice are the end, you're sadly mistaken.

It's only the beginning."

It would seem they got a warrant.



Do you have an issue with the courts protecting copyright laws?

[Gaffer]

It would seem they got a warrant.



Do you have an issue with the courts protecting copyright laws?

I have an issue with the seizure being done by ICE and not the FBI. This is outside ICE jurisdiction as it has nothing to do with immigration. Something doesn't smell right here.

[fj1200]

I have an issue with the seizure being done by ICE and not the FBI. This is outside ICE jurisdiction as it has nothing to do with immigration. Something doesn't smell right here.

Interesting but DOJ and NIPR mean nothing? The question remains however.

[Gaffer]

Interesting but DOJ and NIPR mean nothing? The question remains however.

They are the prosecutor arm. The FBI is the enforcement arm. ICE handles immigration. That's why this doesn't make sense. Myself I don't care if they prosecute copyright laws. I question whose doing the enforcement. And is this the start of some major crackdown throughout the internet? I'm having a revelarts moment here I think.

[fj1200]

ICE handles immigration.

Immigration and CUSTOMS Enforcement. Which is why they are probably taking lead relating to copyright. And a lot of the other sites pulled related to counterfeit handbags if I read that part right.

Reading some of the comments on the original link I saw a lot of them relating to internet ownership which is far from the issue IMO, similar to Napster back in the day.

[Pagan]

It would seem they got a warrant.



Do you have an issue with the courts protecting copyright laws?

Really?

So ICE is the world police eh?

Registrant:
Torrent Finder
15 Alexandria St.
N/A
Alexandria, 55555
Egypt


Domain Name: TORRENT-FINDER.COM
Created on: 30-Dec-05
Expires on: 30-Dec-11
Last Updated on: 04-Oct-10

[fj1200]

Really?

So ICE is the world police eh?

Registrant:
Torrent Finder
15 Alexandria St.
N/A
Alexandria, 55555
Egypt


Domain Name: TORRENT-FINDER.COM
Created on: 30-Dec-05
Expires on: 30-Dec-11
Last Updated on: 04-Oct-10

And? It doesn't mean they can't enforce US laws and block US access if they're breaking US law.

[Pagan]

And? It doesn't mean they can't enforce US laws and block US access if they're breaking US law.

So just because someone accuses someone of committing a crime they can shut them down even if they're outside of the country. No court, just an accusation without a trail or court just because ICE says so.

OK

So someone in Egypt can accuse a site here in the U.S. and shut the U.S. site down.

[fj1200]

So just because someone accuses someone of committing a crime they can shut them down even if they're outside of the country. No court, just an accusation without a trail or court just because ICE says so.

OK

You are familiar with the process of getting a warrant aren't you? There's like a judge involved and stuff.

Why don't you actually read the notice and not go off all knee-jerk like most of the commenters.

So someone in Egypt can accuse a site here in the U.S. and shut the U.S. site down.

I'm guessing that's not what happened here... but call me crazy.

[Pagan]

You are familiar with the process of getting a warrant aren't you? There's like a judge involved and stuff.

Why don't you actually read the notice and not go off all knee-jerk like most of the commenters.

I'm guessing that's not what happened here... but call me crazy.

Aaaah the site is in Egypt so ICE can enforce it's it's will outside of the Country?

Look at it this way, let's say China doesn't like a site here in the U.S. because it speaks out against China's government so they can just "shut down" the site here.

Same thing