Doctors Turn Against Abortion

[Hobbit]

http://www.breakpoint.org/listingart...erId=111128682

It looks as though British women are having a hard time getting abortions because doctors are excercising their right to choose to simply never perform the procedure. Little by little, the barbarism involved in taking a life before that child even draws his (or her, if you're a hypersensitive hippy) first breath is bubbling to the surface.

On a side note, my grandma is a yellow dog Democrat, and the only thing she ever disagreed with Clinton on was abortion. She was a nurse and assissted with only one abortion. It still haunts her and she's been pro-life ever since.

[gabosaurus]

A typical point made by someone who see no fault in rape.

[-Cp]

A typical point made by someone who see no fault in rape.

A typical response by someone who has no soul and doesn't hold precious the life of unborn humans..

A typical response by someone who wants to support the murder of a baby - a far worse crime than rape.

[avatar4321]

A typical point made by someone who see no fault in rape.

What does rape have to do with murdering children? Which is probably one of the few things in life worse than rape.

[diuretic]

Okay staying with the article. Can anyone else think of a medical procedure that has itself deeply embodied in a major ethical discussion?

Please note I'm not, at this point, arguing for or against the legal issues surrounding abortion. I'm simply looking at the medical procedure and asking if there is any other medical procedure that has associated ethical issues.

I can think of one, circumcision of male infants. It's not as difficult as the abortion issue in terms of medical procedures being ethically questionable but if anyone has any to add it would be useful.

[stephanie]

Okay staying with the article. Can anyone else think of a medical procedure that has itself deeply embodied in a major ethical discussion?

Please note I'm not, at this point, arguing for or against the legal issues surrounding abortion. I'm simply looking at the medical procedure and asking if there is any other medical procedure that has associated ethical issues.

I can think of one, circumcision of male infants. It's not as difficult as the abortion issue in terms of medical procedures being ethically questionable but if anyone has any to add it would be useful.

???

[avatar4321]

Okay staying with the article. Can anyone else think of a medical procedure that has itself deeply embodied in a major ethical discussion?

Please note I'm not, at this point, arguing for or against the legal issues surrounding abortion. I'm simply looking at the medical procedure and asking if there is any other medical procedure that has associated ethical issues.

I can think of one, circumcision of male infants. It's not as difficult as the abortion issue in terms of medical procedures being ethically questionable but if anyone has any to add it would be useful.

Female circumcision would be a far more controversial medical proceedure.

[diuretic]

Female circumcision would be a far more controversial medical proceedure.

True - it's actually a crime to do that here. And even so, even without the condemnation of the criminal law, it seems to me that the motivation for the procedure makes it ethically unsound. And that's what I want to emphasise, the motivation for the procedure.

[Mr. P]

Heres one.

...While praised by transplant advocates, the model law has stirred concern among some doctors and bioethicists. Critics say it could result in people becoming donors or kept on life support against their or their family's wishes. And some worry that the measure could make doctors more hesitant about administering morphine and other drugs to make dying patients comfortable, for fear of rendering their organs useless for transplantation.

The revised model law is the latest in a series of initiatives by transplant advocates to boost the number of organs available for the more than 95,000 Americans on waiting lists. Organ banks have also been aggressively promoting a controversial practice that allows surgeons to take organs from patients who are not brain dead, more than doubling the number of such donations in the past three years.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...302062_pf.html

[diuretic]

Good catch Mr P, yep that's loaded with ethical issues!

[krisy]

An 'abortion crisis" is one of the sickest things I've heard. Good for these docs for standing up for what they believe

[diuretic]

An 'abortion crisis" is one of the sickest things I've heard. Good for these docs for standing up for what they believe

Why?

[Hobbit]

Why?

Well, to those of us who see abortion as the murder of a human being, seeing a lack of this occurance labeled a 'crisis' is...disturbing.

[diuretic]

Well, to those of us who see abortion as the murder of a human being, seeing a lack of this occurance labeled a 'crisis' is...disturbing.

Are there any other medical procedures that get you excited?

[Hobbit]

Are there any other medical procedures that get you excited?

I happen to think 'gender reassignment' is pretty much an affront to all that is holy, too. Given time, I may be able to think of another, but there's nothing that stirs the emotions quite like abortion, because those of us who are against abortion see it as being murders for the sake of convenience, the same as if a mother shot her 3-year-old because she was tired of feeding him.